Justin Trudeau on Uncommons
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On this episode Prime Minister Justin Trudeau joins Nate to discuss the next election, successes and failures in governing, and what comes next. #cdnpoli #ju...

A decent view of Trudeau’s thinking on a few popular issues in case you care to know.

Nate is an LPC MP from TO. He was the runner up candidate for OLP’s last leadership election.

His bitch ass still hasn’t delivered on voting reform. He seems like a nice enough human being but I have the luxury to vote NDP and not waste my vote and I’m absolutely going to do so.

He’s going into PR mode harder right now because he wants to win over would-be NDP voters. Problem is, he has the power of PM right now and hasn’t done anything meaningful for the issues that people have most on their mind - housing especially. He’s a typical status-quo liberal and people don’t want that right now. The younger crowd is aware more than ever how the system is rigged against us from the start. Conservatives are deranged and want to take away the rights of minorities. There just isn’t a place for a Justin Trudeau in today’s world.

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There’s a part on that. It was … informative and unfortunate.

I wish I had that luxury. 😄 I guess we’ll see how numbers move in my riding by the time the election is called. Maybe NDP’s viability would increase.

I abhor with every fibre of my being having to vote strategically. The last 2 federal elections I haven’t had to … it was NDP across the board. This time I’ll have to go back to it and it pisses me off.

Democracy my ass.

I mean, this is why Trudeau would prefer ranked choice voting.

If only he’d kept his promise then.

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ABC baby! A.k.a “democracy my ass”

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This is interesting. It’s almost like, there’s other mechanism/s driving polarisation, not the voting system in use.

Yeah their argument here seems to be “they have alternative vote and look at their polarization” and it isn’t clear at all how voting system is at all related to polarization.

The connection would be secondary. In FPTP, the blue team and red team play for “all the marbles”, so more divisive language and negative campaigning are effective. In RCV/AV systems, being second choice on lots of ballots is a valid tactic, so in theory less negative campaigning.

Although this effect is likely as described, I can’t help to think that in recent years the divisive effects of social media have far outweighed it.

I’ll also point out that RCV/AV eliminated the spoiler effect. It also can lead to a “gateway voting system” to STV, which is probably my favourite.

IMO, FPTP << RCV/AV/IRV << MMP < STV.

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