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He still is ahead of Kamala by about 2% or 2.5 million votes. Before he was ahead of Kamala + Claudia + Chase + Cornell + Jill + Vermin Supreme + Elmo.

It’s still a closer gap than he lost to Biden by by a lot. But it is also super clear that Harris managed to do worse in this environment than Hillary did in 2016 back when Trump was an unknown crazy person instead of the well known crazy shill for hire.

The voter suppression wasn’t as rampant in 2016 as it was this year.

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Maybe the dems should have done something to actually reform how the electoral system works at any point they had power post-Bush which was quite frequently BTW. This didn’t happen because the democratic party makes money off devouring its base and loves losing so much it will even send money to republican candidates in areas where they have totally lost any presence.

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Maybe the dems should have done something to actually reform how the electoral system works at any point they had power post-Bush which was quite frequently BTW.

“Had power” is doing a lot of work in this sentence.

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Sorry would you prefer me to cover the times when they had full control of the legislature, the white house, had the ability to appoint supreme court justices and chose not to, or some combination thereof?

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