If the objective was shortening the conflict, then we would have told them they were on their own. The objective is for a sovereign nation to remain so.

I thought it was a given that Russia also can’t win but I suppose you can look at it this way, Russia could end the war right now if they wanted. It’s a whole can of worms but I think it’s vital for global security and stability that Russia does not take over Ukraine. Long term a win for Russia will cause more pain and suffering for everyone including Russian civilians.

The objective is for a sovereign nation to remain so.

The US has spent the last eight years helping Saudi Arabia starve and decimate Yemen, so it doesn’t make sense to me to use this kind of moralistic language like we’re good guys here.

Oh we suck for sure, but not doing the “right” thing because we also do the wrong thing seems like a shitty way to live.

Not having health care because your government funds other countries’ wars is a shitty way to live, without question.

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