I currently use a Droplet from DigitalOcean which gives me 1 gb of RAM, 25 gb of storage and a bandwidth limit of 1 TB which is priced at 6 dollars per month, I think this might be a good offer, but I also think I’m overpaying because the only thing that I use from that is Wireguard to get around CGNAT at my home (which I could already do with Zerotier or Tailscale, so I don’t always use it).
I do have a couple of docker containers as well, but the most important one being Pi-Hole is only used along with WG, I also expose some services to the internet, like Overseerr, Plex (only to 1 user) and most recently this, https://wefwef.app/posts/lemmy.world/all
Keeping within what DO already offers me would be nice, especially the bandwidth, which I some months got past of it because I opened the torrent port to seed more… I stopped when a DO letter arrived which is amusing because my country could not care less about torrenting. 🤣
I tried to go with the cheapest option ever (free) oracle cloud, but they never accepted any of my credit or debit cards nor they cared about it lol.
I don’t think I’m a power user by any means, so please, if you have a better offer do tell, or maybe that price is fair for my usage?
EDIT: forgot to add that a public IPv4 address is a must, because you know, the CGNAT.
@kratoz29@selfhosted You cannot go much cheaper from $6 per month… there’s just not that far down to go. You can save maybe another $3 per month. There’s a $3.50/mo plan on Vultr. I have an OVHcloud VPS that cost $100 for 2 years but that was some special promotional deal.
I also stumbled across this one that is $3.40/month (but the $5/month is a much better deal, with 4GB of RAM) but I don’t know anything about this hosting provider so it could just as well be a scam: https://bill.alexhost.com/cart/moldova/
Presumably they mean that the CPU resources are over-provisioned, meaning that the virtual CPUs allocated to VMs have to share a smaller pool of physical CPUs. If the VMs have a lot of idle time, this can work well, but if your VM suddenly needs more CPU, the processes on your VM might need to wait for a physical CPU, as physical CPU cycles that would normally be available to you have been “stolen away” by processes running on other VMs.
The CPU steal time is the time the virtual core is waiting for the physical core. That means a VM is waiting for the hypervisor until it shifts CPU time to the VM again. More virtual cores sitting on a physical core means higher CPU steal. And higher CPU steal means bad performance because the hoster is allocating more virtual cores on a physical core that it can manage.
Fwiw racknerd still has their 2022 black Friday deals active. I just got 8 core 12 gb ram 100 gb SSD 12tb bandwidth for 161 annual (little over 13 a month). Just search it on Google. It’s still live on their store site.
Set one up yesterday. My first experience with VPS, but it was straightforward; seems plenty fast, but I haven’t done anything to push either memory or CPU.
Ok, I don’t think this is entirely related, but opening this link on Safari https://servarica.com/all-offers/ will make my mac freeze and behave poorly with CPU spikes of configd process… I need to check this shit.
Oh my goodness (obviously im super opinionated on this) never use safari, its stoopeed. Only use Firefox, Chrome or even … Edge. Not sure if that will help you, but safari is gross.
Darn im sorry. But also I never use safari on my mac. I have a mac book pro for work as a software engineer. we only use the ones I showed you. (again sorry i super passionately hate safari)
Good luck on your search for a VPS though! Oh yeah my friend texted me 2 sites and I chose servarica.com but the other one he suggested is Contabo! https://contabo.com/en/vps/
It’s not the cheapest option on here, but Hetzner Cloud has some pretty good servers. I think their least expensive VPS is about $3.60 a month and comes with 4GB of ram and 40GB storage.
I rent from Contabo. They rent out Proxmox VMs. 6 Euro/month for 4 cores ( E5-2630 v4 in my case), 8GBs of RAM, 200GB SSD and I think 200Mbit connection
I’m still on Linode and have been for over a decade. Just very sad to have seen them lose their independence after selling to Akamai. Prices went up immediately and the whole “family of sysadmins working for sysadmins” feeling was gone.
FWIW, I haven’t seen a similar change from Ramnode after they sold to InMotion. They still seem quite good, and I’m picky. A bit more info on my experience (plus my affiliate code) upthread.
I’ve had really good experiences with Ramnode for years. I run VPN endpoints, reverse proxies, and various web apps in a couple of their data centers and have had about as close to zero problems as possible, plus their support is quite competent when something does break. Performance is what I expect 99% of the time.
Before that, Linode was good for me as well, and I still have friends who like it.
The lower you go in price, in general the more problems you’ll have with overselling, poor management, poor support, etc.
After coming back to this thread and reading some more comments, it sure looks like I could save up to $3 a month over what I pay for cheap VPS at Ramnode, but in all my years of being a Ramnode customer, they haven’t pissed me off, and their support has always been excellent. I have no desire to move, and I’m somebody who has very little money, so cheaper hosting would make a difference.
I use a IONOS vps from the XS tier for your exact usecase! It’s only 1€/month and comes with 1 vcore, 1GB RAM and 10 GB SSD storage. Connection is fast too (400 MBit/s+) and data transfer is free (fair use). It comes with one public IPv4 adress.
IONOS is the hosting and cloud division of 1&1, a large ISP here in Germany. Super reliable and zero issues for over 3 years of continous use! I had my fair share of problems with smaller and somewhat dubious hosters before, so now I stick to the established ones.
They have datacentres in the US & Spain too, btw. You can also choose OVH (big french hoster) with locations in Germany, France, Canada etc., but they were more expensive last time I checked.
The IONOS management website is great too. They have free snapshots, paid backups, (web) KVM access and a configurable firewall.
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@kratoz29 @selfhosted You cannot go much cheaper from $6 per month… there’s just not that far down to go. You can save maybe another $3 per month. There’s a $3.50/mo plan on Vultr. I have an OVHcloud VPS that cost $100 for 2 years but that was some special promotional deal.
I also stumbled across this one that is $3.40/month (but the $5/month is a much better deal, with 4GB of RAM) but I don’t know anything about this hosting provider so it could just as well be a scam: https://bill.alexhost.com/cart/moldova/
I use Hetzner and it’s really good imo
Same here, 2 instances, 1 in Germany, 1 in Finland. Both small vps’es (one smallest, 1 1 size bigger) work like a charm now I added swap.
Contabo and NetCup are really cheap. But only if you use their shared VPS option. If you are lucky the CPU steal is low.
What do you mean?
Presumably they mean that the CPU resources are over-provisioned, meaning that the virtual CPUs allocated to VMs have to share a smaller pool of physical CPUs. If the VMs have a lot of idle time, this can work well, but if your VM suddenly needs more CPU, the processes on your VM might need to wait for a physical CPU, as physical CPU cycles that would normally be available to you have been “stolen away” by processes running on other VMs.
The CPU steal time is the time the virtual core is waiting for the physical core. That means a VM is waiting for the hypervisor until it shifts CPU time to the VM again. More virtual cores sitting on a physical core means higher CPU steal. And higher CPU steal means bad performance because the hoster is allocating more virtual cores on a physical core that it can manage.
racknerd is running a deal on 1cpu/1GB/25GB 4TB bandwidth at $13/year
Fwiw racknerd still has their 2022 black Friday deals active. I just got 8 core 12 gb ram 100 gb SSD 12tb bandwidth for 161 annual (little over 13 a month). Just search it on Google. It’s still live on their store site.
Yeah, not seeing that. I have the 3 vCPU 4.5GB RAM one for about $50/year, but nothing like what you are seeing.
When you order the 3 vcpu 4.5gb one, you can upgrade cpu cores, number of ips, and ram. Maxed out minus the IPs and you get it for around 161.
Oh wow. I didn’t even see that. Thanks.
Thats funny. They have 4th of July sale but the black friday prices are better.
Yeah I noticed that. Dunno they fulfilled my orders so we shall see lol. Ify. Instance goes offline randomly now we know why. Hahaa
holy shit EDIT: Just got a pretty sick little vps for a year for like $40. Thanks!
yeah its pretty nice. I am running this lemmy instance on the 48 dollar one, and have another fully upgraded for my own other services.
That seems like a good pricing, are you using it right now?
Set one up yesterday. My first experience with VPS, but it was straightforward; seems plenty fast, but I haven’t done anything to push either memory or CPU.
Thanks, I will have it in consideration!
Kimsufi has pretty cheap stuff.
Well, it is cheaper than DO.
I use vultr for the same and the same price.
It has a cheaper option but it’s with slower CPU and HDD instead of SSD.
And actually I pay $1 more for 40GB of block storage for some archiving of sites I want to keep.
I honestly don’t think I’m getting the perks of SSD… but maybe I am and never realized lol.
I use servarica.com for both my lemmy and misskey instances. Search the summer sales!
Ok, I don’t think this is entirely related, but opening this link on Safari https://servarica.com/all-offers/ will make my mac freeze and behave poorly with CPU spikes of configd process… I need to check this shit.
Oh my goodness (obviously im super opinionated on this) never use safari, its stoopeed. Only use Firefox, Chrome or even … Edge. Not sure if that will help you, but safari is gross.
Sadly it is the most optimized one for macOS, so in here is a necessity, but I just found this happen on Chrome too so I’ll be damned.
Darn im sorry. But also I never use safari on my mac. I have a mac book pro for work as a software engineer. we only use the ones I showed you. (again sorry i super passionately hate safari)
Good luck on your search for a VPS though! Oh yeah my friend texted me 2 sites and I chose servarica.com but the other one he suggested is Contabo! https://contabo.com/en/vps/
Thanks for the recommendations mate!
Oracle Free Tier - as many (ARM) VMs as you can fit in 24gb RAM and 4 vCPUs.
I’ve been trying to register for the past month with no luck
I think they might have shadowbanned that service lol.
Until they remove our account for no reason
Hey I have cgnat too and am looking to implement my own wireguard vpn. Can u please post some guide how to do it with a vps?
Install PiVPN on the VPS.
I don’t have a guide at the moment, but the easier way is to look up for Tailscale.
It’s not the cheapest option on here, but Hetzner Cloud has some pretty good servers. I think their least expensive VPS is about $3.60 a month and comes with 4GB of ram and 40GB storage.
+1 Hetzner, been a customer for years, they’re very stable.
I rent from Contabo. They rent out Proxmox VMs. 6 Euro/month for 4 cores ( E5-2630 v4 in my case), 8GBs of RAM, 200GB SSD and I think 200Mbit connection
I use Linode, I don’t think it’s cheap. Is it priced ok and my team and I just order too much?
I’m still on Linode and have been for over a decade. Just very sad to have seen them lose their independence after selling to Akamai. Prices went up immediately and the whole “family of sysadmins working for sysadmins” feeling was gone.
FWIW, I haven’t seen a similar change from Ramnode after they sold to InMotion. They still seem quite good, and I’m picky. A bit more info on my experience (plus my affiliate code) upthread.
That price is pretty fair for what you get.
I’ve had really good experiences with Ramnode for years. I run VPN endpoints, reverse proxies, and various web apps in a couple of their data centers and have had about as close to zero problems as possible, plus their support is quite competent when something does break. Performance is what I expect 99% of the time.
Before that, Linode was good for me as well, and I still have friends who like it.
If you do try Ramnode out, here’s my affiliate code, I am broke as fuck and really appreciate it. https://clientarea.ramnode.com/aff.php?aff=4335
So you think with my usage that is money well spent that could not be reduced by a similar option?
The lower you go in price, in general the more problems you’ll have with overselling, poor management, poor support, etc.
After coming back to this thread and reading some more comments, it sure looks like I could save up to $3 a month over what I pay for cheap VPS at Ramnode, but in all my years of being a Ramnode customer, they haven’t pissed me off, and their support has always been excellent. I have no desire to move, and I’m somebody who has very little money, so cheaper hosting would make a difference.
Just a data point, good luck in your search!
I use a IONOS vps from the XS tier for your exact usecase! It’s only 1€/month and comes with 1 vcore, 1GB RAM and 10 GB SSD storage. Connection is fast too (400 MBit/s+) and data transfer is free (fair use). It comes with one public IPv4 adress.
IONOS is the hosting and cloud division of 1&1, a large ISP here in Germany. Super reliable and zero issues for over 3 years of continous use! I had my fair share of problems with smaller and somewhat dubious hosters before, so now I stick to the established ones.
They have datacentres in the US & Spain too, btw. You can also choose OVH (big french hoster) with locations in Germany, France, Canada etc., but they were more expensive last time I checked.
The IONOS management website is great too. They have free snapshots, paid backups, (web) KVM access and a configurable firewall.
Thanks for the recommendation. Their offerings look pretty affordable.
Thanks for the recommendation, that pricing looks neat!
BuyVM has some reasonably priced servers available.