The “it’s not fair we pay for these games for them to then be pirated” says it all, it’s not about the company becoming bankrupt because of piracy, it’s because they don’t want to feel bad once they have been scammed with a half made game that others have gotten for free. Because a half made game should be worthless
What a strange mentality. When I pay for things I want, I’m generally happy to support the creator. If others can’t, why would I be upset if they get the product for free? It means more people can also enjoy the thing I like.
It’s such a crab bucket mentality, I couldn’t imagine living life being constantly bitter.
I certainly don’t care if others get the game other ways (except unauthorized key stores). I am just happy that good games get their recognition and give people joy. I am in the fortunate situation that I am able to just buy all games I want. Heck, I even bought games for friends who were unsure or even dismissive “if it would be worth it”. I also buy/bought games that I never played or won’t play but watched streamers play it.
Some people are really weird when it comes to things being “fair.” I forget the details but I remember a study where given the option of getting $100 and a stranger getting $200, a good chunk of people would rather neither of them get anything.
There is a famous experiment , where a person gets 100$, and have to offer an arbitrary percentage of that to a stranger. If the stranger declines, both get nothing.
From the strangers perspective, getting offered even 1$ is a win, but the vast majority rejected anything below 30%
If you ride a bus without a ticket, other passengers will have to pay more because upkeep and salaries are more or less a fixed cost. That is if you can afford the ticket, it’s irrelevant otherwise. Also depends on profit margins but I think it explains the point.
If no-one pirated any Sony game do you think they would.
A) Lower the price of the game to maintain their existing profit margin.
B) Set a lower price that increases their margin.
C) Keep the higher price and just make a fuck ton more money.
Not necessarily. The bus will still operate, if you ride on it or not. The cost is the same.
If say 20% of passengers don’t pay and you have to get more buses and drivers because of that. Then it’ll affect prices.
Just as pirating Netflix movies without ever having the intention of paying for them is the same outcome as not watching them.
Maybe worse for Netflix since you won’t tell your friends about it. There are studies that prove this effect.
Except that’s not even how most bus systems work because most of them are majority funded by taxes with fares originally meant to serve as a stopgap but then slowly converted into a profit engine (usually after privitization). Fares are a way to gatekeep a service which your taxes already pay for, which I would argue, is by itself a form of theft.
As an example check out the latest MTA report only 26% of funding comes from fares, and that ones a bit in the higher end from what I’ve seen (NYC public transit, picked as the example a it’s recently been in the news for issues with fare evasion)
All that aside, it’s also worth noting that fare increases are extremely unpopular and it’s not that easy to increase them without potential serious backlash (ie the mass protests in Chile a few years back that were in part set off by the fare hikes.)
I was merely explaining how one comes to this line of thinking which is what OP was asking about. I also mentioned some holes in this logic so I think it’s clear it’s not an opinion I actually hold.
Back when I was maybe seven years old I went to this kids birthday party. I got him an ant farm with tubes.
Later on when all the kids were playing together in his room without adults, he pulled the roll of clear plastic tubing out of ant farm box, he shoved one end up his ass and then started sucking on the other end.
It’s nice to know that he is still alive and tweeting.
I’m having a hard time envisioning the flexibility required to make that work. It couldn’t have been both at the ends at the same time? Also, did this kid just get naked in front of everyone at their party? To each their own, I guess.
The clear plastic tubing was packaged in a roll, to be cut at whatever length the ant farmer wanted, so it was long enough to do standing up.
He didn’t get naked, just put his hand down his pants. It was evident that he placed it either on his butthole, or up it, based on the effort he was taking.
I love this anology so much. It’s something everyone can relate to. It’s something so incredibly low and despised that you can’t understand why it exists, but it’s also so very common.
Wrong, I was that kid and I hate denuvo just like everybody else.
Also I don’t think it works as an analogy, the kid reminding the teacher about homework does it because he likes school, and learning, he does it for himself and everybody else, he never imagine other kids would not like it. This guy doesn’t do this for himself or others, he does this out of spite of others, to punish people, he doesn’t gain anything.
I beg to differ. We made pretty sure that kid had absolutely no doubt that we did not want homework. If it was different for you, there must have been something huge at that school keeping you from getting a whooping every other day.
That’s what the commentor thinks too, he imagines all the good people who want a fair and sane world will cheer him on and the nasty criminals to slink off Into the night mubling how they’d have got away with it if it weren’t for that nobel hero saving the day for the good capitalist folk and their billionaire corporations.
Why would they ? I was that kid and I still upvoted his comment, I don’t use downvote as a disagree/punish button, I only use it for agressive/uninteresting comment. I think we should upvote any comment that create interesting discussion, even if we disagree with the core message.
Had to look up whatever ‘Legends online’ was and it turns out its a tacked on multiplayer mode for Ghost of Tsushima. Who the fuck plays garbage multiplayer like that and who in their right minds pays for PS plus to play that?
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lol
The “it’s not fair we pay for these games for them to then be pirated” says it all, it’s not about the company becoming bankrupt because of piracy, it’s because they don’t want to feel bad once they have been scammed with a half made game that others have gotten for free. Because a half made game should be worthless
What a strange mentality. When I pay for things I want, I’m generally happy to support the creator. If others can’t, why would I be upset if they get the product for free? It means more people can also enjoy the thing I like.
It’s such a crab bucket mentality, I couldn’t imagine living life being constantly bitter.
I can think of a couple ways this post makes sense. For example, if Denuvo paid this commenter to make this post.
They’re probably just a kid who can’t easily afford games.
Can’t tell if you’re drinking the Kool aid… Or serving.
That makes a lot of sense actually. In fact I wouldn’t doubt this to be some scummy social engineering firm.
I certainly don’t care if others get the game other ways (except unauthorized key stores). I am just happy that good games get their recognition and give people joy. I am in the fortunate situation that I am able to just buy all games I want. Heck, I even bought games for friends who were unsure or even dismissive “if it would be worth it”. I also buy/bought games that I never played or won’t play but watched streamers play it.
Some people are really weird when it comes to things being “fair.” I forget the details but I remember a study where given the option of getting $100 and a stranger getting $200, a good chunk of people would rather neither of them get anything.
There is a famous experiment , where a person gets 100$, and have to offer an arbitrary percentage of that to a stranger. If the stranger declines, both get nothing.
From the strangers perspective, getting offered even 1$ is a win, but the vast majority rejected anything below 30%
“Fuck them, I’ve got mine” pro-capitalist mindset in the wild.
If you ride a bus without a ticket, other passengers will have to pay more because upkeep and salaries are more or less a fixed cost. That is if you can afford the ticket, it’s irrelevant otherwise. Also depends on profit margins but I think it explains the point.
If no-one pirated any Sony game do you think they would.
A) Lower the price of the game to maintain their existing profit margin.
B) Set a lower price that increases their margin.
C) Keep the higher price and just make a fuck ton more money.
Not necessarily. The bus will still operate, if you ride on it or not. The cost is the same.
If say 20% of passengers don’t pay and you have to get more buses and drivers because of that. Then it’ll affect prices.
Just as pirating Netflix movies without ever having the intention of paying for them is the same outcome as not watching them.
Maybe worse for Netflix since you won’t tell your friends about it. There are studies that prove this effect.
Except that’s not even how most bus systems work because most of them are majority funded by taxes with fares originally meant to serve as a stopgap but then slowly converted into a profit engine (usually after privitization). Fares are a way to gatekeep a service which your taxes already pay for, which I would argue, is by itself a form of theft.
As an example check out the latest MTA report only 26% of funding comes from fares, and that ones a bit in the higher end from what I’ve seen (NYC public transit, picked as the example a it’s recently been in the news for issues with fare evasion)
All that aside, it’s also worth noting that fare increases are extremely unpopular and it’s not that easy to increase them without potential serious backlash (ie the mass protests in Chile a few years back that were in part set off by the fare hikes.)
I was merely explaining how one comes to this line of thinking which is what OP was asking about. I also mentioned some holes in this logic so I think it’s clear it’s not an opinion I actually hold.
Almost instinctively downvoted after reading what’s gotta be a bot post or a bad joke. Gross.
Corporate narks are the worst kind
‘It’s not fair that we keep getting scammed and others don’t’
So just don’t give them money next time?
‘LALALALA I can’t hear you, it’s your fault not mine LALALALA’
“Please use your boot to step on me harder, daddy corpo!”
stop making it sound so hawt
This has to be bait lmao
Absolutely. Either that or the person was literally born yesterday.
fr, i’ll stick with the former tbh
And then piracy will be the only way to play as people do NOT like to deal with Denuvo (and for good reason)
Back when I was maybe seven years old I went to this kids birthday party. I got him an ant farm with tubes.
Later on when all the kids were playing together in his room without adults, he pulled the roll of clear plastic tubing out of ant farm box, he shoved one end up his ass and then started sucking on the other end.
It’s nice to know that he is still alive and tweeting.
I’m having a hard time envisioning the flexibility required to make that work. It couldn’t have been both at the ends at the same time? Also, did this kid just get naked in front of everyone at their party? To each their own, I guess.
Long flexible tube
It’s his party and he’ll strip if he wants to.
The clear plastic tubing was packaged in a roll, to be cut at whatever length the ant farmer wanted, so it was long enough to do standing up.
He didn’t get naked, just put his hand down his pants. It was evident that he placed it either on his butthole, or up it, based on the effort he was taking.
Ah, that makes sense. I was thinking more like a mini-m&m tube.
this person was the kid back in middle school who reminded the teacher about the homework
Hall monitor type for fucking sure
I love this anology so much. It’s something everyone can relate to. It’s something so incredibly low and despised that you can’t understand why it exists, but it’s also so very common.
Wrong, I was that kid and I hate denuvo just like everybody else.
Also I don’t think it works as an analogy, the kid reminding the teacher about homework does it because he likes school, and learning, he does it for himself and everybody else, he never imagine other kids would not like it. This guy doesn’t do this for himself or others, he does this out of spite of others, to punish people, he doesn’t gain anything.
I beg to differ. We made pretty sure that kid had absolutely no doubt that we did not want homework. If it was different for you, there must have been something huge at that school keeping you from getting a whooping every other day.
That’s what the commentor thinks too, he imagines all the good people who want a fair and sane world will cheer him on and the nasty criminals to slink off Into the night mubling how they’d have got away with it if it weren’t for that nobel hero saving the day for the good capitalist folk and their billionaire corporations.
Those boot lickers 😩
People downvoting your comment are the kids back in middle school who reminded the teacher about the homework
Why would they ? I was that kid and I still upvoted his comment, I don’t use downvote as a disagree/punish button, I only use it for agressive/uninteresting comment. I think we should upvote any comment that create interesting discussion, even if we disagree with the core message.
I was just making a joke. I actually wrote this comment before I read your other comment lol.
Had to look up whatever ‘Legends online’ was and it turns out its a tacked on multiplayer mode for Ghost of Tsushima. Who the fuck plays garbage multiplayer like that and who in their right minds pays for PS plus to play that?
I am with this person
I’m pretty sure that’s actually a fish.
This is either bait or an incredible bit.