Premier Doug Ford’s push to get beer and wine into convenience stores ahead of schedule will cost Ontario taxpayers at least $225 million, but there’s evidence the full price tag actually adds up to hundreds of millions more.
When the Ford government announced that it will pay the multinational owners of The Beer Store to allow what it calls “early implementation” of the expanded alcohol sales, it did not disclose the cost of other key components of its plan. Those components include:
Giving private-sector retailers (including grocery and convenience stores) a wholesale discount of 10 per cent off the LCBO’s basic retail price.
Giving brewers a full rebate of what the LCBO calls its “cost-of-service fees” on wholesale beer sales.
Giving more than 8,000 grocery and convenience stores the right to sell beer, wine, cider and ready-to-drink beverages at prices lower than the LCBO’s.
Official figures from the Ministry of Finance and the LCBO obtained by CBC News on Monday show the province is facing a net revenue loss of $150 to $200 million per year as a result of the changes, in addition to the Beer Store payment.
The Ontario Liberal Party claims the costs will add up to $1 billion in direct payouts to the Beer Store, grocery chains and convenience store owners, as well as foregone revenue for the LCBO.
As much as I hate that this is just unabashed kleptocracy dumping public funds into corporate coffers, I don’t think it’s good that the state is addicted to ruining people’s lives for revenue and I’m kind of glad to see a shift here. But, not like this…
I don’t know what you mean. What is “the other thing?” I didn’t reference any such. The existence of government management over alcohol and its taxation does not necessarily mean that money has to become “addictive” by going into general revenue. If the exploitation of vulnerable people is to be avoided, this money must go to strictly to dealing with the societal and personal effects of alcohol.
The same goes for government involvement with gambling.
Why is Doug so obsessed with the alcohol industry? From the “buck-a-beer” gimmick to ramming booze in ordinary stores, something tells me he’s got a lot of money in private investments and favours from his buddies in the industry.
Considering the agreement between Ontario and The Beer Store is up in 2025. All Doug cares about is giving the rich more money and fucking everyone else over in the process.
Doug should be put in the deepest darkest hole to rot in
As an Ontarian, I feel like Ford’s destroying this province; it saddens and angers me.
Loblaws owner, Galen Weston, among others, is going to make a good chunk of $$$ off this. I’m sure he extends his thanks
It’s unclear what timeframe the OLP estimate is for, but there’s the startup cost on record of $225 million and an estimated $150 to $200 million [let’s call it $175] of revenue loss per year from “Official figures from the Ministry of Finance and the LCBO”. After 5 years that’s an estimated $1.1 billion
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The amount of money Ontario already makes on liquor is insane. The provincial markup on wholesale product is 140%.
As much as I hate that this is just unabashed kleptocracy dumping public funds into corporate coffers, I don’t think it’s good that the state is addicted to ruining people’s lives for revenue and I’m kind of glad to see a shift here. But, not like this…
The state tried the other thing — for years and years — and it didn’t work. So they created the Liquor Control Board of Ontario.
I’ll wager that what’s happening now will exasperate the broader alcohol problem in the province.
I don’t know what you mean. What is “the other thing?” I didn’t reference any such. The existence of government management over alcohol and its taxation does not necessarily mean that money has to become “addictive” by going into general revenue. If the exploitation of vulnerable people is to be avoided, this money must go to strictly to dealing with the societal and personal effects of alcohol.
The same goes for government involvement with gambling.
Why is Doug so obsessed with the alcohol industry? From the “buck-a-beer” gimmick to ramming booze in ordinary stores, something tells me he’s got a lot of money in private investments and favours from his buddies in the industry.
Pandering to the common worker who is not smart enough to value public healthcare but wants cheap beer convieniently.
Family history of drunkards?
Because the morons who support him are fueled by Coors lite, Tim Horton’s eggs and homophobia. Gotta get those votes, folks.
Those people will vote for him even if he told them he was just cutting cheques to Loblaws
Doesn’t seem worth it.
Considering the agreement between Ontario and The Beer Store is up in 2025. All Doug cares about is giving the rich more money and fucking everyone else over in the process.
Doug should be put in the deepest darkest hole to rot in
As an Ontarian, I feel like Ford’s destroying this province; it saddens and angers me.
Loblaws owner, Galen Weston, among others, is going to make a good chunk of $$$ off this. I’m sure he extends his thanks
The Ontario Liberal Party (the people who did the gas plant accounting) came up with a number favourable for them gee surprise
It’s unclear what timeframe the OLP estimate is for, but there’s the startup cost on record of $225 million and an estimated $150 to $200 million [let’s call it $175] of revenue loss per year from “Official figures from the Ministry of Finance and the LCBO”. After 5 years that’s an estimated $1.1 billion