I think that’s the point. They are not in 100 places, they are in one. If you want support about Jellyfin, you go to Jellyfin. It was always kind of stupid with Reddit.
I need support with Jellyfin, so I go to Google, write my query, add Reddit at the end, go to result that may or may not be related, try to discover the difference between the 3 or 4 different but related subreddits to find out which one is the official. Discover that none of them is. Find another sub about cutting cable. There’s a vague answer that’s similar to your issue but not exactly. Maybe try asking them directly on Twitter.
Now you just go to jellyfin.org and the forum is right there, search there for your issue or write your answer. All in one single official place that is looked at and maintained by the very same team. It’s just better overall
As someone who had to Google a bunch of docker issues and constantly got redirected to locked down subreddits, I’m all for developers hosting their own communities. At least then they have an incentive to keep the communities alive.
just as long as it’s not a shitty scenario such as using discord where the information is 1. not publicly searchable because it’s stuck behind a login page, and 2. even though technically discord has a search function, good luck finding what you’re looking for
Chats are not forums. Discord is the same bullcrap than Reddit and Facebook, just newer on the enshittification cycle. People should just have forums and someone could make a containerized microservice that federates it to Activity Hub. Now it’s searchable, indexable, publicly available and archivable.
Absolutely agree that hiding knowledge behind a paywall is crappy. I hit that issue so many times with Red Hat that I standardized on debian variants.
Searching, while a function of any modern forum, is easily bypassed with a modern search engine / crawler. Unless the forum admin takes the unlikely step of disabling web crawlers on their site, you can pass the site:<website> filter into your search. For example: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=subtitles+site%3Aforum.jellyfin.org&ia=web shows forum posts regarding subtitles.
I was just thinking that common forum software implementing ActivityPub would be a great way to link all of these disparate web forums that are still active and have useful content.
I couldn’t be happier having made the move off of plex to jellyfin a couple years back. Plex is basically dead to me since they made their move into enshittification. Jellyfin is perfect! Works great never crashes etc.
I’ve been wanting to make the jump for awhile and I’ve used jellyfin as a secondary server on my library to test run it. I really enjoy it for a lot of reasons but need to properly figure out reverse proxy before I implement it as my main.
The only thing with jellyfin is the constant subtitle issues for years that are very difficult to resolve I guess and inconsistent across different apps. That and sorting of non movie/show content and not respecting folder view.
Maybe… If they wanted to create an announcement effect, they could have simply stuck to their website or Mastodon etc…
Posting on Twitter (!!!) the fact that they’re reacting so harshly to the Reddit case…for me it doesn’t make sense…
Dude, they want people to know, so they go to where people is. This is not field of dreams, if you build it no one will come unless you tell them where to find it. Try to relax a little, they do have a Mastodon and even have a Matrix instance bridged to Discord. They engage on Lemmy as well. Just, breathe deeply and put the toxicity away.
I’m relaxed, thank you for your advice, no toxicity here, just a reflection on using closed networks to promote free software…
It doesn’t change the fact that I really love Jellyfin and will never switch back to Plex or anything else…
Jellyfin is open sourced and supported by donations. I’ve used it for around a year and I can confirm there have been no fees, tracking, or anything else.
I wish they would have chosen to use software to maintain threading in comments and I’m not sure that really Discourse gamifies it’s posts. After a quick look at the interface of myBB, I can say that I personally prefer Discourse. But I think non-accelrated-time-decaing forums are way better than Reddit for things like a project hub. I think what I liked about having many of my interests in on Reddit was the context switch for a topic often didn’t require a context switch in interface to benefit from the network effect of many people participating in the topic.
But at the end of the day, knowing where to get quality assistance and casual discussion about a topic or project is all I’m after. Reddit has been a place to find what I was after, oftentimes as a signpost to find where people are gathering. And now the threadiverse is providing that function much better and sooner than I expected despite its many shortcomings.
I get the desire for a centralized location but I was hoping Lemmy would be the spot. Forums just seen so fragmented, it’s nice to go to one place to see all the discussion instead of having several subpages which honestly have little action. https://lemmy.ml/c/jellyfin seemed like the best replacement for r/Jellyfin
Lemmy’s moderation tools are severely lacking and they seemed to want to get away from the rank by voting system and the churn created by older but relevant and active discussion being hidden on Reddit and Lemmy.
Probably for similar reasons as to why they moved from Reddit. Also configuring their own instance to approximate a traditional forum would honestly kind of undermine the whole point of using Lemmy or the like to begin with (at least imo).
I understand the sentiment of wanting them to to make their stuff easier to follow & post to from here and other places in the Fediverse, but from what they wrote, I get the sense that this format simply isn’t what they were ever looking for in terms of fielding discussions/questions. Their move to Reddit was more of a compromise for where they were at with the project at the time, but now that Jellyfin’s more developed in terms of the software and community, a forum is a more workable prospect.
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I think it’s cool they are using myBB, I’m a big fan for that style of community.
This is heaps cool. For some reason I read it as Jellyfish are moving away from reddit.
Good for them. Using Discord for development work has never made sense to me.
But can you make a lemmy.world feed as well. Having one place to go for everything is better than 100 places.
Eh I see no reason to have support discussions in Lemmy. Leave Lemmy for promotions, updates, and sharing content.
I think that’s the point. They are not in 100 places, they are in one. If you want support about Jellyfin, you go to Jellyfin. It was always kind of stupid with Reddit.
I need support with Jellyfin, so I go to Google, write my query, add Reddit at the end, go to result that may or may not be related, try to discover the difference between the 3 or 4 different but related subreddits to find out which one is the official. Discover that none of them is. Find another sub about cutting cable. There’s a vague answer that’s similar to your issue but not exactly. Maybe try asking them directly on Twitter.
Now you just go to jellyfin.org and the forum is right there, search there for your issue or write your answer. All in one single official place that is looked at and maintained by the very same team. It’s just better overall
Also being discussed in the Jellyfin Lemmy (which has some unofficial dev participation): https://lemmy.ca/post/749294
damn that’s gross
As someone who had to Google a bunch of docker issues and constantly got redirected to locked down subreddits, I’m all for developers hosting their own communities. At least then they have an incentive to keep the communities alive.
just as long as it’s not a shitty scenario such as using discord where the information is 1. not publicly searchable because it’s stuck behind a login page, and 2. even though technically discord has a search function, good luck finding what you’re looking for
Chats are not forums. Discord is the same bullcrap than Reddit and Facebook, just newer on the enshittification cycle. People should just have forums and someone could make a containerized microservice that federates it to Activity Hub. Now it’s searchable, indexable, publicly available and archivable.
Absolutely agree that hiding knowledge behind a paywall is crappy. I hit that issue so many times with Red Hat that I standardized on debian variants.
Searching, while a function of any modern forum, is easily bypassed with a modern search engine / crawler. Unless the forum admin takes the unlikely step of disabling web crawlers on their site, you can pass the
site:<website>filter into your search. For example: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=subtitles+site%3Aforum.jellyfin.org&ia=web shows forum posts regarding subtitles.Only one question remains: will it federate
Yes, yes, yes, please yes! Let it use the ActivityPub protocol, it’ll be so epic pogchamp, fire lit fam 🙏🏻
I was just thinking that common forum software implementing ActivityPub would be a great way to link all of these disparate web forums that are still active and have useful content.
Congrats, that’s the kind of mentality that will make me move from Plex to Jellyfin tomorrow evening :)
I couldn’t be happier having made the move off of plex to jellyfin a couple years back. Plex is basically dead to me since they made their move into enshittification. Jellyfin is perfect! Works great never crashes etc.
I’ve been wanting to make the jump for awhile and I’ve used jellyfin as a secondary server on my library to test run it. I really enjoy it for a lot of reasons but need to properly figure out reverse proxy before I implement it as my main.
Check their documentation, should be all there you need.
The only thing with jellyfin is the constant subtitle issues for years that are very difficult to resolve I guess and inconsistent across different apps. That and sorting of non movie/show content and not respecting folder view.
Other than that, it’s pretty much perfect!
Hooo, time traveling to the 90s I see. Very vintage
And why are they still on Twitter ?! Its not credible…
Probably to broadcast announcements.
Maybe… If they wanted to create an announcement effect, they could have simply stuck to their website or Mastodon etc… Posting on Twitter (!!!) the fact that they’re reacting so harshly to the Reddit case…for me it doesn’t make sense…
Dude, they want people to know, so they go to where people is. This is not field of dreams, if you build it no one will come unless you tell them where to find it. Try to relax a little, they do have a Mastodon and even have a Matrix instance bridged to Discord. They engage on Lemmy as well. Just, breathe deeply and put the toxicity away.
I’m relaxed, thank you for your advice, no toxicity here, just a reflection on using closed networks to promote free software… It doesn’t change the fact that I really love Jellyfin and will never switch back to Plex or anything else…
Says “no fee, no tracking, no hidden agenda”
Yet somehow they are offering this for free? How exactly are they keeping themselves supported?
That is (jelly)fishy…
Jellyfin is open sourced and supported by donations. I’ve used it for around a year and I can confirm there have been no fees, tracking, or anything else.
FOSS, donations
I wish they would have chosen to use software to maintain threading in comments and I’m not sure that really Discourse gamifies it’s posts. After a quick look at the interface of myBB, I can say that I personally prefer Discourse. But I think non-accelrated-time-decaing forums are way better than Reddit for things like a project hub. I think what I liked about having many of my interests in on Reddit was the context switch for a topic often didn’t require a context switch in interface to benefit from the network effect of many people participating in the topic.
But at the end of the day, knowing where to get quality assistance and casual discussion about a topic or project is all I’m after. Reddit has been a place to find what I was after, oftentimes as a signpost to find where people are gathering. And now the threadiverse is providing that function much better and sooner than I expected despite its many shortcomings.
I get the desire for a centralized location but I was hoping Lemmy would be the spot. Forums just seen so fragmented, it’s nice to go to one place to see all the discussion instead of having several subpages which honestly have little action. https://lemmy.ml/c/jellyfin seemed like the best replacement for r/Jellyfin
I totally agree with you! Why didn’t they just hosted their own Lemmy instance???
Lemmy’s moderation tools are severely lacking and they seemed to want to get away from the rank by voting system and the churn created by older but relevant and active discussion being hidden on Reddit and Lemmy.
Probably for similar reasons as to why they moved from Reddit. Also configuring their own instance to approximate a traditional forum would honestly kind of undermine the whole point of using Lemmy or the like to begin with (at least imo).
I understand the sentiment of wanting them to to make their stuff easier to follow & post to from here and other places in the Fediverse, but from what they wrote, I get the sense that this format simply isn’t what they were ever looking for in terms of fielding discussions/questions. Their move to Reddit was more of a compromise for where they were at with the project at the time, but now that Jellyfin’s more developed in terms of the software and community, a forum is a more workable prospect.
Jellyfin is a fantastic platform and I really like to use it!
It’s given me a second renaissance of “cutting the cable” in this streaming no-ownership era
I’m so happy that they aren’t using Discourse.
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Discourse is centralized and proprietary, so it has all the same inherent fatal flaws as Reddit (and Twitter and Facebook)