Edit :
i was ignorant when i posted this however i think it is still safe to say that internet in most 3rd countries is bad or expensive in comparison to their income
I live in Canada. I torrented without a VPN for years, only got one scare tactic email. I also had up to* 25 Mb/s with a data cap for $100/month. Guess Canada is a third world country.
Before the war in Ukraine I had stable 1 Gbit/s for 5$/month with two dedicated IPs
Here in Ireland you get 100 Kbits/s sometimes because they can’t pull you a fiber connection and 4G towers are overloaded to hell, and it costs 20-40€/month
Just curious… Why would VPN make easier to download/seed? I live in one of the shitty countries where most people who download pirated stuff don’t even understand its not legal lol. VPN cant speed up your connection, but I got it anyway for safety (aka nerd behavior 😂). Speed is the same, only wallet is lighter
That’s not what the pic is implying. The pic is implying that yes, while third world countries don’t need vpn as their isps don’t care what they download, the downside of being in a third world country is the god awful internet speeds. It’s not saying a vpn would improve the experience.
The meme is a good case of correlation doesn’t imply causation. In countries where vpns are a must they might have better overall download/seed because of generally better internet. (Which also isn’t always the case, plenty of places in the USA have just as shitty down/up
most of us pirates get our media by using torrents, in Europe and north America piracy is illegal ( downloading copyrighted material without permission is a better term ) and it is punished by law some countries gives huge fines and other can even jail you for it ( like USA ) but it is not the government who is in the lookout for these people but “copyright trolls” an independent companies pied by the copyright owner to extract settlement money from people ( essentially they go to people saying :"you have infringed our copyright so if you don’t want us to sue you, you can give us i don’t know …50K $ to forgive you )
how they catch these people in the first place is by going to torrent trackers and logging IP address then figure out whose those IP address belong to,in some case they would go to the IP owners directly but mostly they go to the ISP and send them a letter saying “this IP address did a no no downloading our song that we want to go triple diamond💎💎💎” witch the ISP to avoid trouble forward it to you, and depending on the ISP they may do nothing afterward or ban your account after multiple infringements which if they are the only ISP in town sucks.
what VPNs do is that they mask your real IP address so they can’t know who you are to sue you and if the VPN have a no logs policy they wouldn’t know your real address even if they try to sue the VPN for it.
note that this does not apply to DLL (direct downloads from websites) as it does not count as evidence that you visited the website even if it hosts copyrighted material in most countries
i tried to explain this as simple as i could , also note that i omitted some details for the sake of simplicity
Funny, Russia shut down torrent sites in ~2010, because most of them were filled with foreign stuff, and that was a friendly (back then) request from European government due to global justification steps made in copyright laws.
In overall Russia has the best seeders out there with decent connections, content and loyalty to sharing.
In Vietnam ISPs are pushing gigabit plans, we paid around 10.5$/month (⬇️1Gbps/⬆️150Mbps) or 14.5$/month for 1Gbps up and down. The speed is not guaranteed though, but reached gigabit most of the time, minimum is 300Mbps.
Of course no data cap and relaxed piracy policies, no vpn needed.
You can download whatever you want without a VPN, seeding is another subject, all the ISPs here offers CGNATED only networks, the only way to bypass this is effectively with a VPN, a commercial one that offers opening the ports you want or using a personal one hosted in a VPS.
I have an IPv6, but last time I have checked that is virtually useless for seeding purposes.
American internet is garbage, as others have already pointed out.
The term “third world country” is outdated, inaccurate, and usually offensive. It often comes off as racist, even if that’s not intentional. Try to avoid using it unless you’re sure it’s appropriate (it almost never is).
What that designation OFFICIALLY meant is that the country remained neutral during the Cold War. That’s all! The “First World” countries were NATO allies and the “Second World” countries were the other side led by the Soviet Union. The implication is that the countries that didn’t pick a side in the Cold War were underdeveloped (which is a flawed assumption, but it was partially correct AT THE TIME).
More recently, the term has become synonymous with “poor” countries, usually those filled with non-white people. Which is dumb, because plenty of the first- and second-world countries WERE and ARE very poor. And some countries that WERE under-developed during the Cold War have since become more developed. India is the most obvious example, it’s surpassing China in a lot of population+economic metrics now.
tl;dr “third world country” is a designation that’s not only offensive; it’s outdated, inaccurate, and dumb.
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I live in Canada. I torrented without a VPN for years, only got one scare tactic email. I also had up to* 25 Mb/s with a data cap for $100/month. Guess Canada is a third world country.
I use private trackers and haven’t had issues not using a VPN in the US
Ha! Speak for yourself!
I don’t live in 3rd world country, I get great internet speeds for cheap (1000u/100d for like 25$), and I don’t need a VPN.
The US just sucks lol
American?
Americans don’t know it yet but even the third world has better internet speeds than they do.
And without data caps.
And it’s dirt cheap
Before the war in Ukraine I had stable 1 Gbit/s for 5$/month with two dedicated IPs
Here in Ireland you get 100 Kbits/s sometimes because they can’t pull you a fiber connection and 4G towers are overloaded to hell, and it costs 20-40€/month
Just curious… Why would VPN make easier to download/seed? I live in one of the shitty countries where most people who download pirated stuff don’t even understand its not legal lol. VPN cant speed up your connection, but I got it anyway for safety (aka nerd behavior 😂). Speed is the same, only wallet is lighter
That’s not what the pic is implying. The pic is implying that yes, while third world countries don’t need vpn as their isps don’t care what they download, the downside of being in a third world country is the god awful internet speeds. It’s not saying a vpn would improve the experience.
The meme is a good case of correlation doesn’t imply causation. In countries where vpns are a must they might have better overall download/seed because of generally better internet. (Which also isn’t always the case, plenty of places in the USA have just as shitty down/up
if you are sure that no one got in trouble for it before you probably don’t need it
most of us pirates get our media by using torrents, in Europe and north America piracy is illegal ( downloading copyrighted material without permission is a better term ) and it is punished by law some countries gives huge fines and other can even jail you for it ( like USA ) but it is not the government who is in the lookout for these people but “copyright trolls” an independent companies pied by the copyright owner to extract settlement money from people ( essentially they go to people saying :"you have infringed our copyright so if you don’t want us to sue you, you can give us i don’t know …50K $ to forgive you )
how they catch these people in the first place is by going to torrent trackers and logging IP address then figure out whose those IP address belong to,in some case they would go to the IP owners directly but mostly they go to the ISP and send them a letter saying “this IP address did a no no downloading our song that we want to go triple diamond💎💎💎” witch the ISP to avoid trouble forward it to you, and depending on the ISP they may do nothing afterward or ban your account after multiple infringements which if they are the only ISP in town sucks.
what VPNs do is that they mask your real IP address so they can’t know who you are to sue you and if the VPN have a no logs policy they wouldn’t know your real address even if they try to sue the VPN for it.
note that this does not apply to DLL (direct downloads from websites) as it does not count as evidence that you visited the website even if it hosts copyrighted material in most countries
i tried to explain this as simple as i could , also note that i omitted some details for the sake of simplicity
Incorrect. The only country in North America that has defined piracy as downloading is the USA. Thanks for lumping the rest of us in with them again.
sorry looks like i have made a mistake
Funny, Russia shut down torrent sites in ~2010, because most of them were filled with foreign stuff, and that was a friendly (back then) request from European government due to global justification steps made in copyright laws.
In overall Russia has the best seeders out there with decent connections, content and loyalty to sharing.
Lol, some third world countries have faster internet than the average New York apartment.
I’ve got gigabit here in colombia. Costs me ~$30 a month and fuck that vpn shit since no one cares if you torrent.
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In Vietnam ISPs are pushing gigabit plans, we paid around 10.5$/month (⬇️1Gbps/⬆️150Mbps) or 14.5$/month for 1Gbps up and down. The speed is not guaranteed though, but reached gigabit most of the time, minimum is 300Mbps.
Of course no data cap and relaxed piracy policies, no vpn needed.
Man, I literally have one of the cheapest internet in the world + don’t need vpn, third world country W
what about upload ?
I’m paying 25€ for 600/300
INR500 (=USD6.25) per month for 200mbps up and down
we don’t need to care about upload since it’s generally direct download and not torrent here.
Edit : the up/down ration seems to be 2.4 : 1.4
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You can download whatever you want without a VPN, seeding is another subject, all the ISPs here offers CGNATED only networks, the only way to bypass this is effectively with a VPN, a commercial one that offers opening the ports you want or using a personal one hosted in a VPS.
I have an IPv6, but last time I have checked that is virtually useless for seeding purposes.
Canada experience is basically this as well. Our ISPs are trash but mine is pretty based about not sharing information with copyright holders
What that designation OFFICIALLY meant is that the country remained neutral during the Cold War. That’s all! The “First World” countries were NATO allies and the “Second World” countries were the other side led by the Soviet Union. The implication is that the countries that didn’t pick a side in the Cold War were underdeveloped (which is a flawed assumption, but it was partially correct AT THE TIME).
More recently, the term has become synonymous with “poor” countries, usually those filled with non-white people. Which is dumb, because plenty of the first- and second-world countries WERE and ARE very poor. And some countries that WERE under-developed during the Cold War have since become more developed. India is the most obvious example, it’s surpassing China in a lot of population+economic metrics now.
tl;dr “third world country” is a designation that’s not only offensive; it’s outdated, inaccurate, and dumb.
Case in point: Sweden and Finland were Third World countries.
Lmao. The US basically
hadhas the worst internet, speeds and prices wise. WE HAVE CAPS!!!