I’m looking for a cloud provider with a cheap VPS offer to host my own wireguard relay and use it to seed.
I’ve read that Switzerland is safe for torrenting, so I was thinking about using Infomaniak. Does anyone has experience with seeding torrents from their IP addresses ? I’m also interested in other suggestions.
I wouldn’t recommend edis, they are great if you are looking for lesser known countries to hosr something. They are shit in everything else, namedly prices, low-bandwidth (1 tb is nothing if you are planning to torrent), bad support.
Switzerland isn’t great when it comes to piracy, Romania, Moldova, Luxemburge, France, Canada are better. You can get cheap vps that won’t care on buyvm or alexhost.
If you look at the protocols available, there are two, BT and μTP.
BT needs one of two peers to have a port open to connect to, either they initiate the connection, or you initiate connection. So if you want to download Arch Linux 2024.12.01(magnet:?xt=urn:btih:265863cbbb5ed9ef39e7c891ebebdf1623b09d5e&dn=archlinux-2024.12.01-x86_64.iso), you’ll need to either connect to a seeder that has a port open, or if you have a port open the seeder can connect to you.
μTP can solve this by performing NAT traversal using UDP hole punching. The way this works is a third peer with open ports will relay information for both peers with closed ports to connect to each other.
As others have pointed out, just get a VPN and run your torrents through that. I’ve used AirVPN and ProtonVPN. Both are P2P friendly and even offer inbound port forwarding. It would be easier to setup and likely cheaper too. Proton is incorporated in Switzerland and has servers all over the world.
This does not answer the question I asked. I’ve already considered a commercial VPN and I’ve ruled it out (clearly not cheaper, unless you can find a decent VPN with port forwarding that costs less than 2€/month)
I’ve also read that it’s illegal in Switzerland to gather IP addresses because they are considered sensitive PII. Do you know about this, and does it protect me in any way if I use a swiss datacenter IP for seeding my torrents ?
Have you considered getting a VPN provider and running something like a container set up to run all the traffic through the VPN? Some even offer port forwarding.
It’s basically free for me since I’ve already been paying for the VPN for other use, and that device would be on anyway to serve Plex.
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BuyVM for sure, but maybe you should look for seedboxes, not VPSs.
I want to use my own storage at home. I’m not gonna pay for several TB of storage on a seedbox when I already have the HDD
Tailscale?
As far as I know, tailscale still requires me to set up my own exit node
I had similar plans, but I opted for a seedbox instead. It gives me some peace of mind not torrenting on my own IP.
I want to use my own storage at home. I’m not gonna pay for several TB of storage on a seedbox when I already have the HDD
That’s fair. Similar situations, different conclusions 🙂
I’ve long been a fan of edis: https://www.edis.at/
Thanks, I’m going to check it out
I wouldn’t recommend edis, they are great if you are looking for lesser known countries to hosr something. They are shit in everything else, namedly prices, low-bandwidth (1 tb is nothing if you are planning to torrent), bad support.
Switzerland isn’t great when it comes to piracy, Romania, Moldova, Luxemburge, France, Canada are better. You can get cheap vps that won’t care on buyvm or alexhost.
Oracle has a Forever Free tier that I use to host my VPN gateway. It’s been running fine for years now.
Are you using it to seed torrents ?
No, only for Wireguard. For torrents I use Mullvad from my home line.
I’ve read somewhere Mullvad no longer offers port forwarding. Do you still manage to seed without it ?
Long story short, in a limited way.
If you look at the protocols available, there are two, BT and μTP.
BT needs one of two peers to have a port open to connect to, either they initiate the connection, or you initiate connection. So if you want to download Arch Linux 2024.12.01(magnet:?xt=urn:btih:265863cbbb5ed9ef39e7c891ebebdf1623b09d5e&dn=archlinux-2024.12.01-x86_64.iso), you’ll need to either connect to a seeder that has a port open, or if you have a port open the seeder can connect to you.
μTP can solve this by performing NAT traversal using UDP hole punching. The way this works is a third peer with open ports will relay information for both peers with closed ports to connect to each other.
As others have pointed out, just get a VPN and run your torrents through that. I’ve used AirVPN and ProtonVPN. Both are P2P friendly and even offer inbound port forwarding. It would be easier to setup and likely cheaper too. Proton is incorporated in Switzerland and has servers all over the world.
This does not answer the question I asked. I’ve already considered a commercial VPN and I’ve ruled it out (clearly not cheaper, unless you can find a decent VPN with port forwarding that costs less than 2€/month)
Just a heads up about switzerland:
Thank you for the clarification.
I’ve also read that it’s illegal in Switzerland to gather IP addresses because they are considered sensitive PII. Do you know about this, and does it protect me in any way if I use a swiss datacenter IP for seeding my torrents ?
Have you considered getting a VPN provider and running something like a container set up to run all the traffic through the VPN? Some even offer port forwarding.
It’s basically free for me since I’ve already been paying for the VPN for other use, and that device would be on anyway to serve Plex.
I’ve considered it and ruled it out. That’s why I’m specifically asking for a VPS to install my own VPN own.
I’m really not interested in paying 5+€/month when I can build my own for a fraction of that cost
ihostart has cheap VPS offers, and they explicitly allow torrents.
Thank you. I’m definetly gonna check it out