The survey is kinda weird. Like why do one has to use a VPN/RP/LAN when you can also just have the Server public exposed ? And for some other questions I should’ve voted „depending “ as neither true or false applied.
I have mine in a DMZ, so it can be fully exposed with software firewall. I thought it’ll be less work to setup and maintain. Wich it is, when I have a small project I can just plug my pi into the DMZ and it’s good to go.
It asks questions for both self-hosted on your own hardware as well as hosted in the cloud, I’m a little confused why everyone thinks all the questions must be applicable. It’s a survey about self-hosting. I happened to have cloud and local hosting answers, and it seemed like if I only used cloud there were suitable answers for that. Maybe I missed something?
Yea, that’s the whole deal with self hosting. Offside hosting or cloud hosting doesn’t mean you just have SAAS, you can have lower level access or even IAAS
Self hosted usually refers to onside hosting. The VPS you are using is hosted offside. So basically it refers to where the server is, not who manages it. But there is a big overlap and many use them synonymous. It’s more of a „well actually“ that only happens to apply here
Feels like you’re proposing a distinction that isn’t universal, and literally there are words (on and off-site) that describe the concept better than the term self-hosted.
Additionally, just because some of the physical infrastructure (the hardware) isn’t in your control doesn’t make it any less self-hosted. I’m sure there are some that own their building and electrical infrastructure too. Meanwhile I’m a schmuck that has to rent and pay a utility provider for electrical. That’s not particularly far from datacenter access.
Agreed. I have a personal modem and a separate router with openwrt acting, at least in part, as a firewall. Then each host also has its own firewall for extra protection.
I agree, I’m a bit of a different case since I’m also colocating my equipment.
I run a UDM Pro for all my IPMI with a VPN into that subnet, but everything else is running with public IPs.
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Making all questions mandatory means I abandoned the survey at some point. If you want people to respond, don’t make it feel like. a chore.
Filled out.
The survey is kinda weird. Like why do one has to use a VPN/RP/LAN when you can also just have the Server public exposed ? And for some other questions I should’ve voted „depending “ as neither true or false applied.
I thought it covered most bases, usually when publicly exposed something has a reverse proxy and certs in front
I have mine in a DMZ, so it can be fully exposed with software firewall. I thought it’ll be less work to setup and maintain. Wich it is, when I have a small project I can just plug my pi into the DMZ and it’s good to go.
Strange survey - it seems to imply that self-hosting means that I have the hardware running at home? Cannot fill this out, unfortunately.
It asks questions for both self-hosted on your own hardware as well as hosted in the cloud, I’m a little confused why everyone thinks all the questions must be applicable. It’s a survey about self-hosting. I happened to have cloud and local hosting answers, and it seemed like if I only used cloud there were suitable answers for that. Maybe I missed something?
Yeah seems like they mix up homelabbing and selfhosting a lot
Yea, that’s the whole deal with self hosting. Offside hosting or cloud hosting doesn’t mean you just have SAAS, you can have lower level access or even IAAS
Sorry but I’ve always called the VPS I run in the cloud, with software used by my 5 person DND group, “self hosted”. You’re saying it is, or it isn’t?
Self hosted usually refers to onside hosting. The VPS you are using is hosted offside. So basically it refers to where the server is, not who manages it. But there is a big overlap and many use them synonymous. It’s more of a „well actually“ that only happens to apply here
Just a little nitpicking, the words you want to be using are “offSITE” and “onSITE” not “offSIDE” or “onSIDE” (this isn’t a football match).
How do you know that hosting isn’t a football match ?
Well, for one, my hardware is never very dramatic.
Feels like you’re proposing a distinction that isn’t universal, and literally there are words (on and off-site) that describe the concept better than the term self-hosted.
Additionally, just because some of the physical infrastructure (the hardware) isn’t in your control doesn’t make it any less self-hosted. I’m sure there are some that own their building and electrical infrastructure too. Meanwhile I’m a schmuck that has to rent and pay a utility provider for electrical. That’s not particularly far from datacenter access.
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Agreed. I have a personal modem and a separate router with openwrt acting, at least in part, as a firewall. Then each host also has its own firewall for extra protection.
I agree, I’m a bit of a different case since I’m also colocating my equipment. I run a UDM Pro for all my IPMI with a VPN into that subnet, but everything else is running with public IPs.
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At home I run my ISP modem with a UDM Pro behind it.
My data center setup is a bit more involved.
I don’t even have an ISP router at all, my personal router is plugged directly into the fibre terminator.
Same. My ISP router is sitting on a shelf unused.
Submitted!! Interested to see the results.
Same