I have a PII laptop from 1998 sitting around, still runs, don’t have the heart to pitch it. But now you’ve got me thinking… That’s a lot of juice.
Maybe it would be a neat experiment in using it via Wake-on-LAN from something else. But if it can wake from something else, that something else likely has more oomph anyway!
It is 100% a great idea to see how you feel about the concept of self-hosting with an old machine. If it’s really old (and I’m talking like anything from before about 2008-2010), perhaps consider snagging an old “tiny”/1L-class box from eBay for cheap. Dell, HP, and Lenovo units can be found for WAY under $100 all the time, and slightly more modern units can still be had at a reasonable price, depending on the model. They’re great platforms to play around with. Just shove a cheap SSD in there and play with it.
Source: an old m920q with an i5-8500T is running pfSense for my home network
I don’t know about the whole 'arr suite but one BT client and PiHole should not be a problem. Provided you don’t seed hundreds of torrents, but even that may work out ok-ish depending on the BT client – some of them like Transmission or rTorrent are more efficient than qBitTorrent or Deluge.
Edit: oh and distro, any distro provided you disable unnecessary services. And I’m assuming you plan to use it in CLI mode only.
They really didn’t fast for old computers, most of them didn’t support x32 already, they eating many resources of ram and processor…
In real world they didn’t light as declared.
Be aware that some old laptops had weird combined chipsets that Linux just can’t use… I tried putting Linux Mint on a friend’s laptop for their kids to use and the networking (wifi and cable) just wouldn’t work… it was something that only Win98 / WinXP could use (from memory).
So just try anything in case you just need to ditch it - as someone else mentioned, treat it as a learning exercise.
It’s doable but you should treat it more as a learning opportunity than a production system.
Honestly, that’s old enough that a RPi might be able to run circle around it.
The Celeron 1011 is a 32bit processor, so Debian or Gentoo may be the only distributions that still support it and you will probably have to compile from source anything you want to run. A gig of ram was good for its time.
The Linux Unplugged crew from Jupiter Broadcasting are currently doing a 32bit challenge to see if such systems are still usable for day to day usage. It’s going to be interesting.
6GB is more than enough for many desktop environments. Plus, a server wouldn’t have any anyway. not booting the Ubuntu installer seems like a bug, or other non-resource problem. if you try with a newer installer, or some other distro, that computer can host many things.
Yeah, it should have been fine. Was latest Ubuntu as well. Maybe something iffy about the laptop hardware, some obscure thing that wasn’t supported. In any case it’s gone now.
Edit: I did manage to install Puppy Linux onto it, but I was severely limited by the CPU which is 32bits. I’m trying another old laptop next! Thanks everyone!
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !selfhosted@lemmy.world
A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.
Rules:
Be civil: we’re here to support and learn from one another. Insults won’t be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.
No spam posting.
Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it’s not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.
Don’t duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.
Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).
I tried with a Celeron 1 GHz. It was slower than a rpi and it sucked 65 watts at idle 🙈
But at least can give some experience, I prefer playing the sysadmin with real hardware than a VM
65 w at idle? Hahahah, holy smokes!
I have a PII laptop from 1998 sitting around, still runs, don’t have the heart to pitch it. But now you’ve got me thinking… That’s a lot of juice.
Maybe it would be a neat experiment in using it via Wake-on-LAN from something else. But if it can wake from something else, that something else likely has more oomph anyway!
That’s good to know ha ha! At least I can have some fun before investing further…
It is 100% a great idea to see how you feel about the concept of self-hosting with an old machine. If it’s really old (and I’m talking like anything from before about 2008-2010), perhaps consider snagging an old “tiny”/1L-class box from eBay for cheap. Dell, HP, and Lenovo units can be found for WAY under $100 all the time, and slightly more modern units can still be had at a reasonable price, depending on the model. They’re great platforms to play around with. Just shove a cheap SSD in there and play with it.
Source: an old m920q with an i5-8500T is running pfSense for my home network
Thanks. I might simply go for the raspberry pi solution as well.
Upgrade ram to the max and set zram and everything will be good to go
I don’t know about the whole 'arr suite but one BT client and PiHole should not be a problem. Provided you don’t seed hundreds of torrents, but even that may work out ok-ish depending on the BT client – some of them like Transmission or rTorrent are more efficient than qBitTorrent or Deluge.
Edit: oh and distro, any distro provided you disable unnecessary services. And I’m assuming you plan to use it in CLI mode only.
Thanks! Yes that’s the idea.
Alpine. But you are very low on the RAM. I will buy more RAM if I can (DDR2(?)).
+1 I’m surprised nobody else mentioned it. Alpine seems to be able to run on anything.
Puppy Linux!
Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Gentoo, Peppermint…
Some others like damn small linux or nano Linux or Linux lite.
Thanks!
They really didn’t fast for old computers, most of them didn’t support x32 already, they eating many resources of ram and processor… In real world they didn’t light as declared.
Crunch bang plus plus retro af
Go for a vintage correct OS for a challenge, try Haiku!
Hey, Haiku is a “modern” OS too :)
Hannah Montana Linux
I wouldn’t dare to charge that old battery up. Some of them can start a fire.
Thanks, it’s removable
you can probably even host your firewall in it
Be aware that some old laptops had weird combined chipsets that Linux just can’t use… I tried putting Linux Mint on a friend’s laptop for their kids to use and the networking (wifi and cable) just wouldn’t work… it was something that only Win98 / WinXP could use (from memory).
So just try anything in case you just need to ditch it - as someone else mentioned, treat it as a learning exercise.
Thanks! I had installed Mac OSX on it back in the day so I’m hopeful.
Total waste of time. Get the newest Pi or equivalent
It’s doable but you should treat it more as a learning opportunity than a production system. Honestly, that’s old enough that a RPi might be able to run circle around it.
The Celeron 1011 is a 32bit processor, so Debian or Gentoo may be the only distributions that still support it and you will probably have to compile from source anything you want to run. A gig of ram was good for its time.
The Linux Unplugged crew from Jupiter Broadcasting are currently doing a 32bit challenge to see if such systems are still usable for day to day usage. It’s going to be interesting.
Found the spec sheet on that processor for anyone who’s interested.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/27167/intel-celeron-processor-1-10-ghz-256k-cache-100-mhz-fsb.html
Thanks! I haven’t thought of the 32 bit issue… I might give it a try anyway for the experience!
I tried this recently with a 10 year old laptop. Much better specs than that. 6GB RAM, ran W10 incredibly slowly due to HDD.
I couldn’t even boot the Ubuntu USB installer.
6GB is more than enough for many desktop environments. Plus, a server wouldn’t have any anyway. not booting the Ubuntu installer seems like a bug, or other non-resource problem. if you try with a newer installer, or some other distro, that computer can host many things.
Yeah, it should have been fine. Was latest Ubuntu as well. Maybe something iffy about the laptop hardware, some obscure thing that wasn’t supported. In any case it’s gone now.
Maybe. You limiting factor is going to be power and thermals. I started on a broken laptop and moved to a minipc when I first started.
Edit: I did manage to install Puppy Linux onto it, but I was severely limited by the CPU which is 32bits. I’m trying another old laptop next! Thanks everyone!
What kind of limitation did you run into? Lack of packages or speed?
Old distro and lack of packages
No