"The end of 立ち読み (Tachiyomi) is the beginning of みほん (Mihon)"
Credit to LinkCable, the icon designer, for this poetic quote.
What's New?
Well, nothing, except you now you need Android 8+ to install...
Kakao (hopefully) won’t get to know the real names of the developers, which will prevent them from suing the devs personally.
They could try to DMCA claim the repo, but Tachiyomi is completely legal, so hopefully Github won’t take it down. Github previously helped youtube-dl after they got DMCA notices.
For now it should work but it will have an increasing likelihood of breaking with every future Android Update.
Migrating to Mihon now is recommended, one of the devs worked on Tachiyomi and for now the code is almost identical which allows easy migration via a Tachiyomi Backup.
Migrating in the future might be more difficult because incompatibility between Tachiyomi and future versions of Mihon could mean Backups from Tachiyomi cannot be restored by Mihon.
If anyone’s wondering why Mihon looks slightly different than Tachiyomi, the reason is this is a fork of TachiyomiSY, which has some changes/features over Tachiyomi (e.g. a predicted next chapter release date).
What I wrote is all wrong. I’ve just looked through the commit history and Mihon is a fork of Tachiyomi and currently it doesn’t have any changes besides branding and being Android 8+.
I don’t know why I believed otherwise, but it might be F-Droids 3 months old Tachiyomi build, which lacked many features compared to up-to-date TachiyomiSY.
Perhaps Mihon will tell Kakao to fuck off. But if Mihon doesn’t, someone else will. [Plus I wanted an excuse to post a cute kitten .gif]
There’s no legal basis to take it down.
Even when there’s no legal basis, a corporation is better prepared to potentially lose a legal battle than a bunch of amateurs are to potentially win it. It’s a form of corporate trolling - “both of us know that you’d win if you fought, but also that you won’t fight”.
That works fine if you’re a corporation dealing with one group that dares to stand between you and the money. But it fails if used over and over, as eventually one group will say “you want a bloody legal battle mate? We’re focking getting one.”
Quick scanning of the repo, Mihon didn’t host or even mention the extension to read external source. So it basically just an application platform. If Kodi still survive, I think this will too.
The mistake of tachiyomi is putting the extension to read piracy website together with the base application
It’s simple. Go to Tachiyomi and create a backup. Then, in Mihon, during the first setup, it should give an option to restore backup.
You can also resotre backup in Mihon settings, then go to extensions and (trust) the restored extensions.
It’s pretty much the same app at its core. So no need to change file names or formats. Everything should transfer.
As far as we know, TachiyomiSY has the same relationship with Mihon as it did with Tachiyomi previously. Maybe it’ll change since SY’s dev is also said to work on Mihon, but we’ll see.
At the moment Mihon is the same as Tachiyomi with changed branding.
Tachij2kfriends, I saw the mihon dev post somewhere that tachij2k shouldn’t be used anymore. Is there a reason for that? Everything is still working on my end, and until it doesn’t I intend to just keep using tachij2k unless there’s a good reason not to. I also read somewhere that the Dev for j2k said he was gonna make some changes, but I wasn’t able to verify that… Anyone know anything more? Thanks
The reason the Mihon de said that is because j2k is using an older tachiyomi base iirc. Updates on it have been on the slower side.
It’s still being actively worked though (as far as I know) and it still works fine, so there’s no reason to switch off of it for now. If Jay does drop it then you should move onto mihon or its forks (TachiyomoSY and TachiyomiAZ will be based off of mihon in future versions).
If it works on your end, no reason to stop using it. The reason they suggested to move elsewhere is because, at the time, there was no indication that j2k had any plans for continued development. Might’ve changed since they put that out, but that’s what they sajd
During setup there will be a page that asks if you want to create or restore from backups. If you hit “restore”, it’ll ask you to point it to the backups folder inside the Tachiyomi folder. Tachiyomi has backups set up by default, but if it’s disabled you can go to the settings to create a backup
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When F-Droid?
I just opened an issue to add it to IzzyOnDroid’s repo
What is keeping Kakao from doing the same thing again?
Kakao (hopefully) won’t get to know the real names of the developers, which will prevent them from suing the devs personally.
They could try to DMCA claim the repo, but Tachiyomi is completely legal, so hopefully Github won’t take it down. Github previously helped youtube-dl after they got DMCA notices.
When is tachiyomi expected to not function anymore?
For now it should work but it will have an increasing likelihood of breaking with every future Android Update.
Migrating to Mihon now is recommended, one of the devs worked on Tachiyomi and for now the code is almost identical which allows easy migration via a Tachiyomi Backup.
Migrating in the future might be more difficult because incompatibility between Tachiyomi and future versions of Mihon could mean Backups from Tachiyomi cannot be restored by Mihon.
Great point! Thank you for this insight
Edit: I just tried to restore a backup from tachiyomi and for me it didn’t work and gave me an invalid backup error message.
Can anyone confirm if it worked for them?
Excellent, have been watching this.
Warning from the release:
If anyone’s wondering why Mihon looks slightly different than Tachiyomi, the reason is this is a fork of TachiyomiSY, which has some changes/features over Tachiyomi (e.g. a predicted next chapter release date).What I wrote is all wrong. I’ve just looked through the commit history and Mihon is a fork of Tachiyomi and currently it doesn’t have any changes besides branding and being Android 8+.
I don’t know why I believed otherwise, but it might be F-Droids 3 months old Tachiyomi build, which lacked many features compared to up-to-date TachiyomiSY.
Latest version of tachiyomi also has prediction of next release
Thank you for pointing out my misinformation. I’ve edited the comment accordingly.
you’re gonna wanna get off GitHub fast
Why? Nothing about the previous situation had anything to do with it being on github.
that was fast
Kakao in the near future, trying to handle Tachiyomi forks:
Hilariously, I’d never heard of any of this stuff until this company decided to Streisand the fuck out of themselves.
And the best part is that they went after the container instead of the content, so all they did was make their problem even worse…
I’m assuming this one is because he’s just going to tell them to fuck off.
There’s no legal basis to take it down.
Perhaps Mihon will tell Kakao to fuck off. But if Mihon doesn’t, someone else will. [Plus I wanted an excuse to post a cute kitten .gif]
Even when there’s no legal basis, a corporation is better prepared to potentially lose a legal battle than a bunch of amateurs are to potentially win it. It’s a form of corporate trolling - “both of us know that you’d win if you fought, but also that you won’t fight”.
That works fine if you’re a corporation dealing with one group that dares to stand between you and the money. But it fails if used over and over, as eventually one group will say “you want a bloody legal battle mate? We’re focking getting one.”
Tachiyomi is a fancy web browser. This is like suing Google because chrome can be used to access pirated content.
Intent matters. Tachiyomi is designed to read manga.
Quick scanning of the repo, Mihon didn’t host or even mention the extension to read external source. So it basically just an application platform. If Kodi still survive, I think this will too.
The mistake of tachiyomi is putting the extension to read piracy website together with the base application
Sorry, I’m super tech/software illiterate, can someone explain how to transfer what I had on tachiyomi over tonthis new app?
Rn it’s just reskinned tachiyomi so export backup > import backup in mihon
It’s simple. Go to Tachiyomi and create a backup. Then, in Mihon, during the first setup, it should give an option to restore backup. You can also resotre backup in Mihon settings, then go to extensions and (trust) the restored extensions.
It’s pretty much the same app at its core. So no need to change file names or formats. Everything should transfer.
How is this different from TachiyomiSY?
Edit: SY will continue by forking Mihon
As far as we know, TachiyomiSY has the same relationship with Mihon as it did with Tachiyomi previously. Maybe it’ll change since SY’s dev is also said to work on Mihon, but we’ll see.
At the moment Mihon is the same as Tachiyomi with changed branding.
Thanks! I’ll stick with SY for now since I’m getting errors with the sources for some reason whenever I migrate and it’s a pain to fix.
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Tachij2kfriends, I saw the mihon dev post somewhere that tachij2k shouldn’t be used anymore. Is there a reason for that? Everything is still working on my end, and until it doesn’t I intend to just keep using tachij2k unless there’s a good reason not to. I also read somewhere that the Dev for j2k said he was gonna make some changes, but I wasn’t able to verify that… Anyone know anything more? Thanks
The reason the Mihon de said that is because j2k is using an older tachiyomi base iirc. Updates on it have been on the slower side.
It’s still being actively worked though (as far as I know) and it still works fine, so there’s no reason to switch off of it for now. If Jay does drop it then you should move onto mihon or its forks (TachiyomoSY and TachiyomiAZ will be based off of mihon in future versions).
If it works on your end, no reason to stop using it. The reason they suggested to move elsewhere is because, at the time, there was no indication that j2k had any plans for continued development. Might’ve changed since they put that out, but that’s what they sajd
I thought this was supposed to be here: https://git.mihon.dev/mihon, without github
Probably mirror.
Maintainer is the same.
That’s fast, I just looked at the GitHub repo this morning and didn’t see anything there
Thanks OP, an FYI you can restore a Tachiyomi backup from Mihon to migrate straight across 👍
Can confirm it’s working. Backup from tachiyomi J2k restores successfully in Mihon.
This has been my main issue with Kotatsu and Mangayomi.
Can someone confirm this? I tried and got an error
Can anyone tell me how to do it?
During setup there will be a page that asks if you want to create or restore from backups. If you hit “restore”, it’ll ask you to point it to the backups folder inside the Tachiyomi folder. Tachiyomi has backups set up by default, but if it’s disabled you can go to the settings to create a backup
Thank you