I’ve actually been a part of this movement, and was part of the protester blockade at the Brady Landfill last summer.
I am good friends with the artist who’s red dress painting was vandalized in an act of hate.
I have read the AMC feasibility study and it is an absolute joke of pure PORK. If you want to see fraud, download the AMC feasibility study and notice how they have budgeted things like $3,000 per day x 365 days for a site manager.
The first thing that struck my mind. Maybe they’re all about finding the victims, but while they’re there, maybe they will also remove some chemical buildup or sanitize the area. I mean they will have to anyway, at some point, but this way they don’t have to take political responsibility for it, because it’s all a goodwill joint operation between states in order to find those poor missing people that they were responsible for killing in the first place, not the ecological disaster they created there in the first place just to cash the money that would otherwise have gotten spent on disposing properly of chemical waste or whatever.
This is just my bleak cynical look at it, I have no evidence or proof that this is taking place, only life long experience of how it always plays out. I am not from Canada and have not read much about this particular case- just once again I smell that same distinct odor of more shit being hid beneath the surface.
E1: $90M??!?! Holy shit are they building a mine or something?
E2: “We understand the desire to leave no stone unturned,” said a statement attributed to Manitoba Premier Heather Stefanson and Indigenous Reconciliation and Northern Relations Minister Eileen Clarke.
“However, the search process described in the report is complex, and comes with long-term human health and safety concerns that simply cannot be ignored.”
I wonder what those health risks are. I wonder what they really buried down there together with those victims that will take $90M to clean up sift through for evidence. Something is so very fucking sus here.
This whole thing is sad but also pointless. Looked into it before, the cops did search but somehow were given the wrong schedule or the garbage trucks were diverted to a different facility. By the time this was realized, it was far too late. I get where the families are coming from but this is pointless and it’s been years now
I wont comment on the efficacy of the search itself—I don’t know enough to meaningfully hold a stance about it—but I think you also have to consider the symbolic meaning of the government funding this search. There’s a long history of federal and provincial governments at best ignoring indigenous people and their struggles, if not actively pursuing policy that harms them.
This search has become a flashpoint for an accumulation of unrest over that history, it can’t be viewed in a vacuum. The sheer poetic horror of murder victims rotting in a landfill makes this example particularly abhorrent, but it’s hardly the only time the police and justice system has failed indigenous women and girls. The government putting a lot of funding into this specific search is bigger than just the outcome of the search itself.
The Prairie Green Landfill shut down dumping in the correct zone in 2022. I know that because I was delivering construction garbage to that dump in 2022.
The estimate is that 60,000 tonnes of material will need to be sifted through, an effort that will take up to three years and between $84M and $186M dollars, with absolutely no guarantee of success.
It’s a performative act and waste of resources. I’d much rather see the $90M go towards funding for addictions and mental health supports, and for homeless shelters. Care for the living, the dead no longer care.
Every almost every season there are a few fishermen who get lost at sea. The CG and DFO will search for a few days then call off the search. It’s tragic, but it’s the way it is.
People go missing all the time it sucks. And I know the family wants closure or whatever but at least they know what happened to their missing. Lots of people are left never knowing.
They are going there to clean up the toxic chemicals the government dumped there for decades. They are not looking for bodies. If bodies show up, maybe they’ll announce it but this smells very very suspicious.
Hahahaha! Yeah, only private companies can dump their trash there.
Doiiiiiiii.
Landfill: Private
Contractor: Private
Government: Employs contractors
Along comes the lobbyists for literally the “Waste Management Business”, saying, oh shit there’s bodies in our dump it seems. Gov better finance digging the whole thing up and dispose of it elsewhere, on the governments/taxpayers buck.
Stock goes brrrrrr.
Not saying this is literally what’s going on, just that that exact thing has happened so many times it gets tiring predicting it.
Sounds like they are cleaning up the landfill and can excuse the expenditure by citing concerns over missing women, to me. But I have grown very cynical over the decades, owing to seeing that shit all the time. This time it’s probably different though, who knows, sometimes experience gets it wrong. Like, there is always a slight rounding error representing acts that could hypothetically be ascribed to goodwill and responsibility.
I would like to see exactly how they are allocating these funds, which contractors they are going to employ, and what the search will entail visavis manpower, equipment, logistics. $40M goes fast. Surely they will have to move a lot of garbage around, and they will have to move it into something and do something with it. So it’s gonna be a landfill cleanup on the taxpayer’s buck, instead of the corps’ who are involved running them.
Edit: >privately owned Prairie Green landfill
Yeah gee I would probably start asking questions at this point, but who wants to be a conspiratorial nutcase, right.
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It’s really about damn time.
I’ve actually been a part of this movement, and was part of the protester blockade at the Brady Landfill last summer.
I am good friends with the artist who’s red dress painting was vandalized in an act of hate.
I have read the AMC feasibility study and it is an absolute joke of pure PORK. If you want to see fraud, download the AMC feasibility study and notice how they have budgeted things like $3,000 per day x 365 days for a site manager.
$40M is more than what is required, to my mind.
The first thing that struck my mind. Maybe they’re all about finding the victims, but while they’re there, maybe they will also remove some chemical buildup or sanitize the area. I mean they will have to anyway, at some point, but this way they don’t have to take political responsibility for it, because it’s all a goodwill joint operation between states in order to find those poor missing people that they were responsible for killing in the first place, not the ecological disaster they created there in the first place just to cash the money that would otherwise have gotten spent on disposing properly of chemical waste or whatever.
This is just my bleak cynical look at it, I have no evidence or proof that this is taking place, only life long experience of how it always plays out. I am not from Canada and have not read much about this particular case- just once again I smell that same distinct odor of more shit being hid beneath the surface.
E1: $90M??!?! Holy shit are they building a mine or something?
E2: “We understand the desire to leave no stone unturned,” said a statement attributed to Manitoba Premier Heather Stefanson and Indigenous Reconciliation and Northern Relations Minister Eileen Clarke.
“However, the search process described in the report is complex, and comes with long-term human health and safety concerns that simply cannot be ignored.”
I wonder what those health risks are. I wonder what they really buried down there together with those victims that will take $90M to
clean upsift through for evidence. Something is so very fucking sus here.The fact that this sentence even has to exist is a crime against humanity.
I don’t like particularly this one either:
Hoser you’re breaking international law, not cool eh?
This whole thing is sad but also pointless. Looked into it before, the cops did search but somehow were given the wrong schedule or the garbage trucks were diverted to a different facility. By the time this was realized, it was far too late. I get where the families are coming from but this is pointless and it’s been years now
I wont comment on the efficacy of the search itself—I don’t know enough to meaningfully hold a stance about it—but I think you also have to consider the symbolic meaning of the government funding this search. There’s a long history of federal and provincial governments at best ignoring indigenous people and their struggles, if not actively pursuing policy that harms them.
This search has become a flashpoint for an accumulation of unrest over that history, it can’t be viewed in a vacuum. The sheer poetic horror of murder victims rotting in a landfill makes this example particularly abhorrent, but it’s hardly the only time the police and justice system has failed indigenous women and girls. The government putting a lot of funding into this specific search is bigger than just the outcome of the search itself.
I don’t do symbolism.
The Prairie Green Landfill shut down dumping in the correct zone in 2022. I know that because I was delivering construction garbage to that dump in 2022.
It is not pointless. Your take is tho.
The estimate is that 60,000 tonnes of material will need to be sifted through, an effort that will take up to three years and between $84M and $186M dollars, with absolutely no guarantee of success.
It’s a performative act and waste of resources. I’d much rather see the $90M go towards funding for addictions and mental health supports, and for homeless shelters. Care for the living, the dead no longer care.
This is caring for the living because the women’s families and friends matter too.
And the fact is the previous provincial Conservative gov’t decided not to do this earlier when the costs wouldn’t have been so steep.
Blame the assholes who created the problem.
Every almost every season there are a few fishermen who get lost at sea. The CG and DFO will search for a few days then call off the search. It’s tragic, but it’s the way it is.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/bay-of-fundy-scallop-fishermen-search-chief-william-saulis-1.5843267
Search was suspended after 36 hours. Only one body was found.
People go missing all the time it sucks. And I know the family wants closure or whatever but at least they know what happened to their missing. Lots of people are left never knowing.
They are going there to clean up the toxic chemicals the government dumped there for decades. They are not looking for bodies. If bodies show up, maybe they’ll announce it but this smells very very suspicious.
It’s a private landfill.
Hahahaha! Yeah, only private companies can dump their trash there.
Doiiiiiiii.
Landfill: Private
Contractor: Private
Government: Employs contractors
Along comes the lobbyists for literally the “Waste Management Business”, saying, oh shit there’s bodies in our dump it seems. Gov better finance digging the whole thing up and dispose of it elsewhere, on the governments/taxpayers buck.
Stock goes brrrrrr.
Not saying this is literally what’s going on, just that that exact thing has happened so many times it gets tiring predicting it.
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Sounds like they are cleaning up the landfill and can excuse the expenditure by citing concerns over missing women, to me. But I have grown very cynical over the decades, owing to seeing that shit all the time. This time it’s probably different though, who knows, sometimes experience gets it wrong. Like, there is always a slight rounding error representing acts that could hypothetically be ascribed to goodwill and responsibility.
I would like to see exactly how they are allocating these funds, which contractors they are going to employ, and what the search will entail visavis manpower, equipment, logistics. $40M goes fast. Surely they will have to move a lot of garbage around, and they will have to move it into something and do something with it. So it’s gonna be a landfill cleanup on the taxpayer’s buck, instead of the corps’ who are involved running them.
Edit: >privately owned Prairie Green landfill
Yeah gee I would probably start asking questions at this point, but who wants to be a conspiratorial nutcase, right.
Sad that this is even a thing to begin with.
With so many people volunteering, does it need that money?
Those were volunteers, right? I saw a lot of people with suggestions.