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Does it? I thought / specifically was protected, and you needed to add --no-preserve-root.


Yup. We should really zero-index century names and years AD/BC as well, but we don’t. If we were still using Roman numerals it would be no big deal, but we rarely do, so there’s a confusing clash. I’m not sure if it was this programming humour community or another where I had a big exchange on the topic before.

I suppose you could have some kind of positional system that’s one-indexed, so 999AD = 1111999AD, and 2000 would be written 2111, but you’d have to completely redo the way arithmetic works, and that defeats the point a bit. And, the new 999 would not be our 999, because it’s effectively base 9.


Sure, but you have to see how it’s an own goal if you’re showing up to table 0.


Fun fact, Noam Chomsky’s linguistic theories were and are the foundation of parsing.


The undecided ones? Probably. People usually have some hope they’re finally going to find an honest politician (but no attention span for what that would actually look like). Plus, I’m a cynical activist, I’ve seen the sausage being made, and even I find it repulsive he’s moving from spin and weasel words to straight up lies and open hypocrisy.

Hard core supporters might simply be glad he’s doing whatever it takes to win, but that was always a given.


Ordinal vs. cardinal. It’s “first” not “onest”, right? Even the ancient proto-Germanic speakers could tell there’s a difference. (In fact, it’s basically a contraction of “foremost”, and has nothing to do with numbers; their weak numeracy was an advantage on this topic)

If we weren’t implicitly choosing 1-indexing it would be 1nd for “second” (and still not “onend” or something). That breaks down once you get to third and fourth, though.


Why the fuck would you spell it “1st” if it’s not 1?

Edit: Which is not pronounced “onest”. I think people might be missing the point here; I’m actually a fan of zero indexing.


Why? It seems exactly as valid to me, and more valid if you like positional numberings of your physical stuff.

You just count the number of times you departed from an item in order, rather than the times you arrived.


EZ, no password on password manager.

[Points at head]


You think people who are undecided about voting for me check that?

- Poilievre


Yes. That being said, it matters which language you choose. COBOL is always a bad choice, unless writing in COBOL is the whole point. There isn’t really a universal best choice, either. Python is often a good one, but if you’re doing something big it will become this meme.


I don’t think that’s quite right. It’s more like if you have to choose a language before you know what you’re doing, Python is the best choice. For anything large enough it’s multiple places down the list, but you really don’t want to have to learn Rust and possibly reinvent wheels for your quick boilerplate hack.


I mean, if you’re going with the libertarian logic, we don’t need unions, but there’s also no such thing as “low-cost labour”. People get paid what they’re worth to employers.

If you want wages higher than that, you need collective bargaining.


that you need to get conspiracy theorists to sit down and do the treatment. With their general level of paranoia around a) tech, b) science, and c) manipulation, that not likely to happen.

You overestimate how hard it is to get a conspiracy theorist to click on something. I don’t know, it seems promising to me. I more worry that it can be used to sell things more nefarious than “climate change is real”.

you need a level of “AI” that isn’t going to start hallucinating and instead enforce the subjects’ conspiracy beliefs. Despite techbros’ hype of the technology, I’m not convinced we’re anywhere close.

They used a purpose-finetuned GPT-4 model for this study, and it didn’t go off script in that way once. I bet you could make it if you really tried, but if you’re doing adversarial prompting then you’re not the target for this thing anyway.


The interaction between society and technology continues to be borderline impossible to predict. I hope less true factually beliefs are still harder to defend, at least.


So were these bought through the new ultra-thorough procurement process the takes forever, or the old one? I’ve heard the ultra-thoroughness was a reaction to this kind of thing.



If it’s outside Russia, sure. It’s probably going to be something (or some things) in international space if it’s a retaliation for something in international space. Or at least, it should be, because I don’t really buy the “direct war with Russia would be fine” jerk.


Yeah, I don’t get that. Federation is the option to have a hyper-custom server that does weird things, or to make your own server with blackjack and hookers if you don’t like your current one, without losing access to community and content. Most people aren’t nerds, though, so if you want plag-and-play an instance like lemmy.world is great.

If you want a small bubble you actually don’t want federation.


Mastodon is just an impenetrable mess from a UX perspective.

How does it compare to Lemmy?


Great, so the perverse incentives aren’t beatable then. Time to bug lawmakers, I guess?

On the bright side, Lemmy feels just about like Reddit to use, so that bodes well for us.


Okay, so I’m going to tell you where the new Twitter is in the blue swirly.

I know, I know, easier said than done to actually guide them through, but if they’re at that level it’s just a different setting on the magic box.


Yeah, I feel like this should be surmountable. At worst, you skip the whole concept of federation and just tell them exactly where to sign up.


But still yes, once NATO works out which Russian stuff to take out in response.

Probably the ghost tankers, right?


I feel like the “tits” they would get for that “tat” would be pretty bad for them. NATO breaks toys better than they ever will.

I don’t really think it would start WWIII on it’s own, though.



What’s the problem? They’re just not sure which instance to go with?


Maybe I just like the idea of a closing tag being very specific about what it is that is being closed (?).

That’s kind of what I was getting at with the mental scoping.

My peeve with json is that… it doesn’t properly distinguish between strings that happen to be a number and “numbers"

Is that implementation-specific, or did they bake JavaScript type awfulness into the standard? Or are numbers even supported - it’s all binary at the machine level, so I could see an argument that every (tree) node value should be a string, and actual types should be left to higher levels of abstraction.

I actually don’t like the attributes in xml, I think it would be better if it was mandatory that they were also just more tagged elements inside the others, and that the “validity” of a piece of xml being a certain object would depend entirely on parsing correctly or not.

I particularly hate the idea of attributes in svg, and even more particularly the way they defined paths.

I agree. The latter isn’t even a matter of taste, they’re just implementing their own homebrew syntax inside an attribute, circumventing the actual format, WTF.


Hmm, so in tree terms, each node has two distinct types of children, only one of which can have their own children. That sounds more ambiguity-introducing than helpful to me, but that’s just a matter of taste. Can you do lists in XML as well?


I have no idea if you think we should buy less from China, or stop complaining about buying from China, but either way you’re right about the hypocrisy, or at least lack of self awareness.


It’s the zeitgeist, right? More protectionism, both for geopolitical reasons and (fake) economic reasons


I think we did a thread about XML before, but I have more questions. What exactly do you mean by “anything can be a tag”?

It seems to me that this:

<address>
    <street_address>21 2nd Street</street_address>
    <city>New York</city> 
    <state>NY</state>
    <postal_code>10021-3100</postal_code>
</address>

Is pretty much the same as this:

  "address": {
    "street_address": "21 2nd Street",
    "city": "New York",
    "state": "NY",
    "postal_code": "10021-3100"
  },

If it branches really quickly the XML style is easier to mentally scope than brackets, though, I’ll give it that.


To Poilievre it seems to be a game he needs to play as hard as possible to win. I bet he’s semi-open about his disregard for accuracy the moment the cameras are off.

Honestly, I blame the voters for not noticing.


I mean, they put in the carbon tax. I’d say they’ve taken action on that one.


What was the git flag to basically rewrite history again?

I’ve definitely been guilty of this, but if I can redo my changes in narrative form before I push I bet I won’t have to.


It’s a weekday, but I’m not a pro, so either llama or hamster. Maybe sloth, we’ll see where today’s project goes.

Does anybody know if there’s a standard method to do a 1-way broadcast from mobile wifi hardware? (Or Auracast, it looks like the same thing) It’s for a sort of mesh network where links may change very rapidly, and so a handshake doesn’t make sense.


I was kind of expecting them to go wildcat like in Ontario. It worked there, and there’s zero chance the Liberals would want to take heat over sending in the riot police on picket lines.


Java was named after the Javanese, and not the other way around?


It’s not hypocrisy if she was lying about why she doesn’t like wind farms in the first place.



What’s the chance the “traitor MPs” the news is going on about are literally just Han Dong?
We have no idea how many there are, and we already know about one, right? It seems like the simplest possibility.
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A worried Washington prods Israel to define its military objectives - CBC
An interesting look at how America thinks about the conflict when cameras aren't pointing at them. TL;DR they see themselves 20 years ago, and are trying to figure out how to convey all the lessons that experience taught them, including "branches" and "sequels", which is jargon I haven't heard mentioned before. Israel is not terribly receptive. Aaand of course, Tom Cotton is at the end basically describing a genocide, which he would support.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/2617125 > A written out transcript on Scott Aaronson's blog: https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7431 > > ------------------------- > > ::: spoiler My takes: > > > ELIEZER: What strategy can a like 70 IQ honest person come up with and invent themselves by which they will outwit and defeat a 130 IQ sociopath? > > Physically attack them. That might seem like a non-sequitur, but what I'm getting at is that Yudowski seems to underestimate how powerful and unpredictable meatspace can be over the short-to-medium term. I really don't think you could conquer the world over wifi either, unless maybe you can break encryption. > > > SCOTT: Look, I can imagine a world where we only got one try, and if we failed, then it destroys all life on Earth. And so, let me agree to the conditional statement that if we are in that world, then I think that we’re screwed. > > Also agreed, with the caveat that there's wide differences between failure scenarios, although we're probably getting a random one at this rate. > > > ELIEZER: I mean, it’s not presently ruled out that you have some like, relatively smart in some ways, dumb in some other ways, or at least not smarter than human in other ways, AI that makes an early shot at taking over the world, maybe because it expects future AIs to not share its goals and not cooperate with it, and it fails. And the appropriate lesson to learn there is to, like, shut the whole thing down. And, I’d be like, “Yeah, sure, like wouldn’t it be good to live in that world?” > > > And the way you live in that world is that when you get that warning sign, you shut it all down. > > I suspect little but reversible incidents are going to happen more and more, if we keep being careful and talking about risks the way we have been. I honestly have no clue where things go from there, but I imagine the tenor and consistency of response will be pandemic-ish. > > > GARY: I’m not real thrilled with that. I mean, I don’t think we want to leave what their objective functions are, what their desires are to them, working them out with no consultation from us, with no human in the loop, right? > > Gary has a far better impression of human leadership than me. Like, we're not on track for a benevolent AI if such a thing makes sense (see his next paragraph), but if we had that it would blow human governments out of the water. > > > ELIEZER: Part of the reason why I’m worried about the focus on short-term problems is that I suspect that the short-term problems might very well be solvable, and we will be left with the long-term problems after that. Like, it wouldn’t surprise me very much if, in 2025, there are large language models that just don’t make stuff up anymore. > > > GARY: It would surprise me. > > Hey, so there's a prediction to watch! > > > SCOTT: We just need to figure out how to delay the apocalypse by at least one year per year of research invested. > > That's a good way of looking at it. Maybe that will be part of whatever the response to smaller incidents is. > > > GARY: Yeah, I mean, I think we should stop spending all this time on LLMs. I don’t think the answer to alignment is going to come from through LLMs. I really don’t. I think they’re too much of a black box. You can’t put explicit, symbolic constraints in the way that you need to. I think they’re actually, with respect to alignment, a blind alley. I think with respect to writing code, they’re a great tool. But with alignment, I don’t think the answer is there. > > Yes, agreed. I don't think we can un-invent them at this point, though. > > > ELIEZER: I was going to name the smaller problem. The problem was having an agent that could switch between two utility functions depending on a button, or a switch, or a bit of information, or something. Such that it wouldn’t try to make you press the button; it wouldn’t try to make you avoid pressing the button. And if it built a copy of itself, it would want to build a dependency on the switch into the copy. > > > So, that’s an example of a very basic problem in alignment theory that is still open. > > Neat. I suspect it's impossible with a reasonable cost function, if the thing actually sees all the way ahead. > > > So, before GPT-4 was released, [the Alignment Research Center] did a bunch of evaluations of, you know, could GPT-4 make copies of itself? Could it figure out how to deceive people? Could it figure out how to make money? Open up its own bank account? > > > ELIEZER: Could it hire a TaskRabbit? > > > SCOTT: Yes. So, the most notable success that they had was that it could figure out how to hire a TaskRabbit to help it pass a CAPTCHA. And when the person asked, ‘Well, why do you need me to help you with this?’– > > > ELIEZER: When the person asked, ‘Are you a robot, LOL?’ > > > SCOTT: Well, yes, it said, ‘No, I am visually impaired.’ > > I wonder who got the next-gen AI cold call, haha! > :::
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Here’s why people are being so mean about the Titan going down - CBC
I have to say I'm not sure what they were hoping for, the discourse hasn't felt overly mean by internet standards, but maybe that's just my bubble. I'm sorry they died, but now that we know all the details it's a bit like the guy that decided to hike up a lava field last year. Also, > People's fascination with the wealthy is fuelled by both curiosity and envy. And when rich people find themselves in trouble, it makes the rest of us feel better, Pamela Rutledge, director of the California-based Media Psychology Research Center, wrote in a piece about social media and the submersible for Psychology Today. I feel like "outrage" should be in there somewhere. It makes me mad that people can be that dumb with a quarter of a million dollars while I'm just glad to have a safe roof over my head, and other people (like the mentioned boat migrants) aren't even that lucky. Alright, back off my soap box.
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