Hijacking this casual aside to warn any Jr. Devs against working for IBM - specifically their CIC, which is coloquially known as their “Cheap Labor Department.” Not only are you paid way less than market rate for an intro position there (at least, that’s how it was pre-covid), but if you get put on a contract they tell you you’re supposed to work “at least” 44 hours/week, regardless of your actual workload. The position is, obviously, exempt.
Source: first job outta college. Got some certs on their dime and jumped ship soon as I could. From what I saw, mid-level and senior IBM devs on identical contracts are treated way better, so this warning is primarily for newer folks, and entirely about the CIC division
Honestly, I can’t remember what it stands for. My new place uses the same acronym for something completely different so I can’t remember what the original phrase was.
As for what it is, it’s the division of low-paid college graduates that they throw onto contracts in order to squeeze more money out of their clients (hence being paid far bellow market rate and having them work an extra 4 unpaid hours a week)
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Gotta work unpaid overtime now I guess…
Hijacking this casual aside to warn any Jr. Devs against working for IBM - specifically their CIC, which is coloquially known as their “Cheap Labor Department.” Not only are you paid way less than market rate for an intro position there (at least, that’s how it was pre-covid), but if you get put on a contract they tell you you’re supposed to work “at least” 44 hours/week, regardless of your actual workload. The position is, obviously, exempt.
Source: first job outta college. Got some certs on their dime and jumped ship soon as I could. From what I saw, mid-level and senior IBM devs on identical contracts are treated way better, so this warning is primarily for newer folks, and entirely about the CIC division
What’s CIC?
Honestly, I can’t remember what it stands for. My new place uses the same acronym for something completely different so I can’t remember what the original phrase was.
As for what it is, it’s the division of low-paid college graduates that they throw onto contracts in order to squeeze more money out of their clients (hence being paid far bellow market rate and having them work an extra 4 unpaid hours a week)