please post any subsequent updates here unless they’re huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don’t have to be their own thread
This has been months in the making. From what I can tell it’s a mix of Russian incompitence in the war effort and the Kremlins attempts to control more of Wagner. I have no idea where this is going or what either side has in mind but it’s definetly motivated by Wagner seeing the Kremlin itself as being the thing holding the war effort back.
This feels like wrestling “Kayfabe.” Like, was this just some weird feint by Russia? Try to bait Ukraine into doing something? This would be a new level of gaslighting if so…
It could also be a way to shake out any elements of the Russian military or other paramilitary groups that are looking for ways to get out of Ukraine. Like, maybe the attacks on Wagner coming from the Russian army are rogue elements where Wagner is obviously the most effective target for friendly fire.
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Just saw on the news that Wagner is turning around after Lukashenko got involved?
Belarus is more likely to side with Wagner over Lukashenko. That clown will be gone the second Putin is.
Well that would be funny
I saw that as well. Idk, it just seems really unlikely to just back down from a coup because Belarus gets involved…
Also didnt Lulashenko just jet over to Turkey?
This has been months in the making. From what I can tell it’s a mix of Russian incompitence in the war effort and the Kremlins attempts to control more of Wagner. I have no idea where this is going or what either side has in mind but it’s definetly motivated by Wagner seeing the Kremlin itself as being the thing holding the war effort back.
This feels like wrestling “Kayfabe.” Like, was this just some weird feint by Russia? Try to bait Ukraine into doing something? This would be a new level of gaslighting if so…
So strange.
It could also be a way to shake out any elements of the Russian military or other paramilitary groups that are looking for ways to get out of Ukraine. Like, maybe the attacks on Wagner coming from the Russian army are rogue elements where Wagner is obviously the most effective target for friendly fire.
This.
I had that thought too, some false flag to get Ukraine to launch it’s main counteroffensive early
Backing down like this puts a target on their heads. It’s never wise to do something like a coup and not follow through .