Poll: A historic number of Americans don’t want a Biden-Trump rematch
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A historic number of Americans prefer neither President Biden nor former President Trump be elected president in 2024, according to a new CNN/SSRS poll. The survey found that 33 percent favored Tru…
hihusio
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voters select these candidates via primaries and general election, though.

Deceptichum
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Yeah, just look at the DNC and Bernie. Clearly chosen by the voters and not at all manipulated by the party to get the result they wanted.

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You still believe the vote was rigged by the DNC after all these years? Holy shit.

Do you have any idea how influential media is? When you have MSNBC and CNN plus various others talking about how Biden is the only viable option again and again and again, you can’t ignore the influence of that. He won South Carolina after the endorsement of a very popular and influential corporate Democrat there. The media along with the DNC saw that as the opportunity to rally around Biden. Everyone drops out and endorses him, and there you go. I’m oversimplifying a bit for the sake of brevity, obviously, but bottom line, Biden was chosen and supported to defeat Bernie because they couldn’t accept the possibility of a politician like Bernie winning. He was a threat to capital and he was extinguished from the race.

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Not to mention the DNC leaked information and ways to sabotage him (ex. Trying to use that he was Jewish against him$

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They’ve literally fucking admitted to it and apologised, and you still eat the Lib propaganda that he lost fairly?

TheRtRevKaiser
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Name calling isn’t really in the spirit of this instance. You can argue and still be nice.

Deceptichum
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Oh joy the reddit moral prude police have found the place.

Please protect my delicate ears from the naughty words!

TheRtRevKaiser
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I don’t care about your language, but I do care about how you interact with other users. Be civil.

Does the word superdelegate mean nothing to you?

It just factually is rigged as long as the system is in place.

Superdelegates serve a valid purpose. If the Republican party had them we might not have been subjected to four years of Trump.

hihusio
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unfortunately, he wasn’t chosen by voters when it came to actual primary votes.

phillaholic
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He lost the popular vote by more than 10%.

We’re you paying attention during the primaries? Everywhere pushed the narrative that he couldn’t beat Trump enough that people believed it and voted for Biden in the primaries.

It’s hilarious that you actually believe that.

hihusio
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I believe the vote counts, yes.

Sean
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@hihusio @trashhalo @sin_free_for_00_days
Trump saying that the election was stolen in 2020 (rehashing a lie from before 2016 election that if doesn’t win it is fraud)

Big Lie: Hillary Clinton is assured to win. Next Big Lie: HRC lost only because of Russians, Susan Sarandon, and Bernie Sanders (ignore the 40 rallies he did to GOTV)

Next Big Lie: Only moderate corporatists could beat Trump, Biden winning 5 states by a margin of victory of less than 100k votes must be ignored

FfaerieOxide
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Do they though?

hihusio
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funding and party support is one thing. votes are another.

FfaerieOxide
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Are leaders chosen exclusively according to the popular will of The People as you would seem to assert, or not?
Are their extrapublic forces fingering the scales?

You can’t imply voters are to blame for the parties ignoring their interests and admit other interests manipulate the system to serve their ends.

hihusio
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primary voters vote for the candidate. party elites might have their horse but if the voters go another way, then their horse still loses the race despite the advantage. an outsider candidate could win if they have the votes.

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