FWIW I’ve been a mechanical engineer for decades and they are right about this. Trust me instead. They’re probably reacting with hostility because you’re way out of line here; what you’re arguing is anti-labor.
There is a profitable balance between productivity and safety, and they’ll say one thing while firing people who are too unproductive.
I’ve been a mechanical engineer for decades and they are right about this.
What does you being a mechanical engineer have to do with anything? Are you a mechanical engineer at Tesla? Do you have evidence you’d like to provide to back up your claims?
what you’re arguing is anti-labor
What I’m arguing is pro-sense. Being objective and not making assumptions does not make me anti-labor. Jumping into the deep end and just piling on anyone accused of abuse with zero justification is a bad look and you’re shooting yourself if the foot when you do it.
There is a profitable balance between productivity and safety
Of course there is. So why are we just instantly assuming that they’re not walking it? That every accident is the result of management pressure and not employee negligence of safety protocols?
Could very well be either/or but you and this other clown are the only ones making definitive statements without any evidence.
Oh so your experience matters, but mine doesn’t? I’ve presented the same quality of evidence that you have. There isn’t a worse “look” than tirelessly arguing that labor is at fault for what we’re de facto forced to do.
…what experience? Where did you see me present an anecdote about my personal experience? Why don’t you answer the question I asked instead of deflecting?
I’ve presented the same quality of evidence that you have
You’ve provided zero evidence. Literally nothing except appealing to your profession and then refusing to explain anything about how that qualified you to speak on the topic.
I don’t need evidence, because as I just said in the comment you’ve just replied to, I haven’t made any claims.
There isn’t a worse “look” than tirelessly arguing that labor is at fault
…what? I think you replied to the wrong person.
for what we’re de facto forced to do.
Huh? No one is forcing you to labor, that’s called slavery, and it’s very illegal. You have to contribute something to society before you take from it but I’m not really sure what that has to do with any of this.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !technology@beehaw.org
A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.
Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
FWIW I’ve been a mechanical engineer for decades and they are right about this. Trust me instead. They’re probably reacting with hostility because you’re way out of line here; what you’re arguing is anti-labor.
There is a profitable balance between productivity and safety, and they’ll say one thing while firing people who are too unproductive.
What does you being a mechanical engineer have to do with anything? Are you a mechanical engineer at Tesla? Do you have evidence you’d like to provide to back up your claims?
What I’m arguing is pro-sense. Being objective and not making assumptions does not make me anti-labor. Jumping into the deep end and just piling on anyone accused of abuse with zero justification is a bad look and you’re shooting yourself if the foot when you do it.
Of course there is. So why are we just instantly assuming that they’re not walking it? That every accident is the result of management pressure and not employee negligence of safety protocols?
Could very well be either/or but you and this other clown are the only ones making definitive statements without any evidence.
Oh so your experience matters, but mine doesn’t? I’ve presented the same quality of evidence that you have. There isn’t a worse “look” than tirelessly arguing that labor is at fault for what we’re de facto forced to do.
…what experience? Where did you see me present an anecdote about my personal experience? Why don’t you answer the question I asked instead of deflecting?
You’ve provided zero evidence. Literally nothing except appealing to your profession and then refusing to explain anything about how that qualified you to speak on the topic.
I don’t need evidence, because as I just said in the comment you’ve just replied to, I haven’t made any claims.
…what? I think you replied to the wrong person.
Huh? No one is forcing you to labor, that’s called slavery, and it’s very illegal. You have to contribute something to society before you take from it but I’m not really sure what that has to do with any of this.