I think if someone asks someone repeatedly to not message them, and they proceed to message them twice more, that it is harassment regardless of what the justification is. The CEO is displaying narcissistic, manipulative, and toxic behavior, and there is no defense for that.
There was no issue with the initial reach-out, that’s fair to reach out to criticism to discuss it, the issue was with the follow-ups after they were asked to not continue the conversation any further.
That was my main take-away. You’re the CEO of the company. If someone writes a mean blog post about your business so what? Fix the issues with the product if they are legitimate things that need fixing. Otherwise leave people alone. If something constitutes libel then sue. Otherwise it’s just someones opinion which they are entitled to.
No I have a bad opinion about him as well (please don’t reach out to me either).
First big lesson as a CEO. If they would have ignored this it would have made the rounds but faded into irrelevance. After all it is just a blog, on the fediverse. By engaging though it became very clickable, and now it’s going to hurt way worse than the original blog.
I don’t think it’s constructive to attack me because I don’t agree. I have written scathing blog posts about Mozilla. If the CEO reached out to me, I would feel a sense of responsibility to let them have their same. I’m not saying over the phone, I’m all for paper trails. But the way that Lori put themselves across, it didn’t resonate with me in a positive way.
The fact that a CEO took time out to try and engage and discuss this users fears and concerns should be applauded.
The context of the post was that the CEO contacted them and then kept contacting them after being told to stop. You are cheering on a CEO repeatedly contacting someone to tell them why their opinion was wrong. You are criticizing the person who was harassed by saying the person who harassed them should be applauded.
You were victim blaming, and they even pointed it out kindly.
Person A: Doesn’t like something and so publicly criticises it.
Person B: Asks for an opportunity to defend the thing and themselves.
Person A: Says no
Person B: Insists
Person A: Then posts about person B on social media in a defamatory manner.
Social Media: Well person B is a CEO, so it’s par for the course.
Me: Actually, it’s par for the course that someone be given the right to defend themselves
You: You’re victim blaming.
Me: 🥴
Honestly, I don’t give a shit either way. I don’t even know the name or URL of the search engine and I doubt I’ll ever meet Lori. I just posted my opinion on something that was in my feed. 🤦🏾♂️
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I think if someone asks someone repeatedly to not message them, and they proceed to message them twice more, that it is harassment regardless of what the justification is. The CEO is displaying narcissistic, manipulative, and toxic behavior, and there is no defense for that.
There was no issue with the initial reach-out, that’s fair to reach out to criticism to discuss it, the issue was with the follow-ups after they were asked to not continue the conversation any further.
Let’s not victim blame please.
That was my main take-away. You’re the CEO of the company. If someone writes a mean blog post about your business so what? Fix the issues with the product if they are legitimate things that need fixing. Otherwise leave people alone. If something constitutes libel then sue. Otherwise it’s just someones opinion which they are entitled to.
No I have a bad opinion about him as well (please don’t reach out to me either).
First big lesson as a CEO. If they would have ignored this it would have made the rounds but faded into irrelevance. After all it is just a blog, on the fediverse. By engaging though it became very clickable, and now it’s going to hurt way worse than the original blog.
I don’t think it’s constructive to attack me because I don’t agree. I have written scathing blog posts about Mozilla. If the CEO reached out to me, I would feel a sense of responsibility to let them have their same. I’m not saying over the phone, I’m all for paper trails. But the way that Lori put themselves across, it didn’t resonate with me in a positive way.
Someone disagreeing with you is not the same as attacking you.
Suggesting I’m victim blaming is an ad-hominem attack 🙃
You wrote:
The context of the post was that the CEO contacted them and then kept contacting them after being told to stop. You are cheering on a CEO repeatedly contacting someone to tell them why their opinion was wrong. You are criticizing the person who was harassed by saying the person who harassed them should be applauded.
You were victim blaming, and they even pointed it out kindly.
Let’s look at events objectively.
Person A: Doesn’t like something and so publicly criticises it.
Person B: Asks for an opportunity to defend the thing and themselves.
Person A: Says no
Person B: Insists
Person A: Then posts about person B on social media in a defamatory manner.
Social Media: Well person B is a CEO, so it’s par for the course.
Me: Actually, it’s par for the course that someone be given the right to defend themselves
You: You’re victim blaming.
Me: 🥴
Honestly, I don’t give a shit either way. I don’t even know the name or URL of the search engine and I doubt I’ll ever meet Lori. I just posted my opinion on something that was in my feed. 🤦🏾♂️
You still don’t get it.
Seems like you missed some things in your first read of the Mastodon thread. That might be why you’re not getting the response you’re expecting.
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