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actually, i would like to counter this. Developers often times put together shitty UIs that are hard to navigate (mostly because UI design is bad and we’ve been living with floating WMs for the past 30 years so nobody knows any fucking better for some godforsaken reason)

But it’s no fault of the user for using a shitty interface if it was designed to be used in that manner, by the person who built it. This is why so many people like CLI, it’s impossible to fuck up. You can use it wrong as a user, but that’s because it has specific syntaxing. It’s designed to only be used in that one manner, where as most graphical applications are designed to be “generally applicable” for some reason, and then when a user uses it in a “generally applicable” manner, somehow that’s now the wrong way to use it?

People screw up CLI’s all the time (looking at you Google Cloud). They (used to) insist on using my installed python which automatically upgrades and breaks the CLI. Good job python. Good job Gcloud.

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i’m not sure that’s a CLI problem, sounds more like an application problem from what i’m hearing.

Exactly! All applications can be shit, not just web sites.

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this is true, though websites are most often the culprit of this.

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I’d argue floating wms are more intuitive and some can still tile pretty well if you want that

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floating WMs are intuitive, but the problem is that they’re an incredibly mediocre solution, and the way that problems are often solved around one, is just entirely asinine. Let’s build ten different ways to do the same thing, now we have 10x the code to build and maintain, and it’s 10x more confusing to the end user who probably won’t know about half of them, because 90% of our documentation is redundant!

Tiling WMs have significantly less issues with this, because they often have a very strict set of management rules, and only those. Nothing more.

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