I am looking for people to play both games with. The games tend to be filled with lots of reactionaries so it can be hard to exist in them.

Like I get kicked a lot in tf2 for having a queer flag pfp, and it is hard to queue for group content in dark and darker if I don’t want to hear slurs.

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a lot of other games, but none like those I’m afraid

and I haven’t seen a game that takes moderation seriously enough yet, they are all run by capitalists

Deep Rock Galactic has been pretty cool (single purchase, no subscriptions). Nice community, devs who listen. Great solo experience, too.

Another good F2P game is Warframe. The community is generally nice, especially to new players.

Competitive games, though, seem to attract the alt-right tryhards who find pleasure in causing others misery. I quit those several years ago for my mental health, just because I was tired of listening to toxic people lose their shit. They can scream at each other, for all I care.

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i turn mics off

Fair. Make sure you take care of your mental health, either way. No game is worth sacrificing it, but that’s just my humble opinion.

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which is why i play them with groups of people

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By tf2 are you referring to Team Fortress 2? I feel like every shooter these days is a class-based shooter, what sets tf2 apart from something like Overwatch?

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literally none of them have spy or anything close to it for a start

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xDefiant has a class with an invisibility skill (which lets one do plenty of shotgunning losers in the back)? Apex Legends has Mirage with various decoy and invisibility skills? idk, I don’t know every single one of these shooters, but I will grant you that the way the Spy works in TF2 is pretty unique.

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a big issue is accessibility as well, a lot of those are organized around headshots and are much less clear visually, as well as requiring much stronger computers to play

so while tf2 has a fascist problem, it also has a lot of people i aint gonna leave behind

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overwatch fucked itself up so hard its barely playable now

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So many games focus mainly on competitive play. Tf2 is the only multiplayer fps where I feel free to relax and goof off.

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