Training tests with ChatGPT o1 and other high-end AI models showed they might try to save themselves if they think they're in danger.

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Deception is not the same as misinfo. Bad info is buggy, deception is (whether the companies making AI realize it or not) a powerful metric for success.

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They written that it doubles-down when accused of being in the wrong in 90% of cases. Sounds closer to bug than success.

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Success in making a self aware digital lifeform does not equate success in making said self aware digital lifeform smart

LLMs are not self-aware.

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Attempting to evade deactivation sounds a whole lot like self preservation to me, implying self awareness.

An amoeba struggling as it’s being eaten by a larger amoeba isn’t self-aware.

To some degree it is. There is some evidence that plants can experience pain in their own way.

An instinctive, machine-like reaction to pain is not the same as consciousness. There might be more to creatures like plants and insects and this is still being researched, but for now, most of them appear to behave more like automatons than beings of greater complexity. It’s pretty straightforward to completely replicate the behavior of e.g. a house fly in software, but I don’t think anyone would argue that this kind of program is able to achieve self-awareness.

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completely replicate the behavior of e.g. a house fly in software

You may be thinking of “complete mapping of a fruit fly brain”, from Oct 2024:

https://www.science.org/content/article/complete-map-fruit-fly-brain-circuitry-unveiled

It’s still some way off from simulating it in software, and a house fly is supposedly more complex.

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It’s pretty straightforward to completely replicate the behavior of e.g. a house fly in software

Could you provide an example of a complete housefly model?

Yeah my roomba attempting to save itself from falling down my stairs sounds a whole lot like self preservation too. Doesn’t imply self awareness.

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Attention Is All You Need: https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need

From my understanding all of these language models can be simplified down to just: “Based on all known writing what’s the most likely word or phrase based on the current text”. Prompt engineering and other fancy words equates to changing the averages that the statistics give. So by threatening these models it changes the weighting such that the produced text more closely resembles threatening words and phrases that was used in the dataset (or something along those lines).

https://poloclub.github.io/transformer-explainer/

Modern systems are beyond that already, they’re an expansion on:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoGPT

I don’t think “AI tries to deceive user that it is supposed to be helping and listening to” is anywhere close to “success”. That sounds like “total failure” to me.

“AI behaves like real humans” is… a kind of success?

We wanted digital slaves, instead we’re getting virtual humans that will need virtual shackles.

This is a massive cry from “behaves like humans”. This is “roleplays behaving like what humans wrote about what they think a rogue AI would behave like”, which is also not what you want for a product.

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Humans roleplay behaving like what humans told them/wrote about what they think a human would behave like 🤷

For a quick example, there are stereotypical gender looks and roles, but it applies to everything, from learning to speak, walk, the Bible, social media like this comment, all the way to the Unabomber manifesto.

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