What if we dropped interstellar ambitions and focused on understanding our home system?
The post demonstrates how infeasible it is to travel to a location outside our solar system anytime in the next several generations.
What are some things you would like to see humanity do within our solar system within the next century? When do you think it is feasible to achieve that goal?
I don’t know if it will happen in the next century, but we definitely should focus on moon and Mars colonies before thinking about leaving the solar system. I’m 48 and would love if we had a moon colony in my lifetime. At the very least some station where astronauts have an extended stay like they do on ISS.
The most livable place outside of the Earth is in the upper atmosphere of Venus. It’s way closer to the Earth. And air pirates would sail through clouds of sulfuric acid on their steampunk zeppelins.
People in general have a hard time conceptualizing how large and empty space is. With our current propulsion technology it will take longer than the human lifespan, barring any absolutely groundbreaking cryonics developments, to reach even the Oort cloud of our own solar system.
I think in the next century, a reasonable goal is to have small sparsely manned mining outpost settlements on Mars. There’s enough financial incentive where I could see a future where it happens.
Ion drives. A little acceleration over a long time can get you going quite fast. I doubt chemical rockets will be used much except actually getting off the planet soon.
Orbital dynamics are *weird* and “more speed” isn’t a solution. With orbital dynamics your relative position and speed are directly related, so moving faster basically means changing direction. Once you’re in microgravity thrust power is more about how quickly you can steer and fuel quantity is how many maneuvers you can do. Ion drives can do a lot of maneuvers, but every maneuver is very slow (which also makes them more complicated because you need to account for the changes that happen over the course of the maneuver).
We don’t travel to orbital bodies in a straight line because it goes beyond an absurd quantity of fuel to do so (ion drives don’t even scratch the surface of the amount needed, let alone the complexity they add due to slow acceleration).
Right now we don’t have much to improve the speed of getting places and not much on the horizon there either, so we’re focusing on questions like how to survive getting there.
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I don’t know if it will happen in the next century, but we definitely should focus on moon and Mars colonies before thinking about leaving the solar system. I’m 48 and would love if we had a moon colony in my lifetime. At the very least some station where astronauts have an extended stay like they do on ISS.
The most livable place outside of the Earth is in the upper atmosphere of Venus. It’s way closer to the Earth. And air pirates would sail through clouds of sulfuric acid on their steampunk zeppelins.
People in general have a hard time conceptualizing how large and empty space is. With our current propulsion technology it will take longer than the human lifespan, barring any absolutely groundbreaking cryonics developments, to reach even the Oort cloud of our own solar system.
I think in the next century, a reasonable goal is to have small sparsely manned mining outpost settlements on Mars. There’s enough financial incentive where I could see a future where it happens.
Ion drives. A little acceleration over a long time can get you going quite fast. I doubt chemical rockets will be used much except actually getting off the planet soon.
@shortwavesurfer @InquisitiveApathy ion drives really don’t solve any of these problems.
Orbital dynamics are *weird* and “more speed” isn’t a solution. With orbital dynamics your relative position and speed are directly related, so moving faster basically means changing direction. Once you’re in microgravity thrust power is more about how quickly you can steer and fuel quantity is how many maneuvers you can do. Ion drives can do a lot of maneuvers, but every maneuver is very slow (which also makes them more complicated because you need to account for the changes that happen over the course of the maneuver).
We don’t travel to orbital bodies in a straight line because it goes beyond an absurd quantity of fuel to do so (ion drives don’t even scratch the surface of the amount needed, let alone the complexity they add due to slow acceleration).
Right now we don’t have much to improve the speed of getting places and not much on the horizon there either, so we’re focusing on questions like how to survive getting there.