Major record labels sued Verizon on Friday, alleging that the Internet service provider violated copyright law by continuing to serve customers accused of pirating music.
They say that “Verizon has knowingly contributed to, and reaped substantial profits from, massive copyright infringement committed by tens of thousands of its subscribers.”
Cox received support from groups such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which warned that the big money judgment could cause broadband providers to disconnect people from the Internet based only on accusations of copyright infringement.
While judges in the Cox case reversed a vicarious liability verdict, they affirmed the jury’s additional finding of willful contributory infringement and ordered a new damages trial.
“Yet rather than taking any steps to address its customers’ illegal use of its network, Verizon deliberately chose to ignore Plaintiffs’ notices, willfully blinding itself to that information and prioritizing its own profits over its legal obligations.”
The lawsuit also complains that Verizon hasn’t made it easier for copyright owners to file complaints about Internet users:
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At the end of the day, all these huge tech firms have left is to try and fuck with the people that know better and are looking to get off from under their thumb. Google is going to keep trying to break every workaround we use, so will Microsoft, Meta, Apple and every single ad-ridden and anti-privacy company out there.
However, just look around. People are waking up. The Lemmy communities just keep growing, more and more people are eliminating their mainstream social media and Google accounts. That fuck-up on Friday worldwide will have many companies reevaluating if it’s worth it to remain on Windows. In short, the internet revolution has already started, and it will hit critical mass at some point (5 years, 10 years, hard to tell).
This is the reason why so many companies are lobbying (which I see just as a pretty word for bribing) to scan before encryption and making it law. They know their golden egg goose is finally dying.
I finally got all my family and friends on Simplex, and they in turn are getting their friends onto it as well. I’m very happy with what I’m seeing.
If it’s an actual human right how come it gets cut off if you don’t pay your bills?
I used to work for a water company in an admin role and one of the things that I learned was we can’t actually cut people’s water off because it’s a safety issue and a human right to have access to water at all times. If people didn’t pay their bills all that really happened was they got threatening letters but nothing ever actually happened to their water supply.
Also cutting off water is a pain because you have to physically send an engineer out to go do it you can’t do it remotely. At least not in 2011 when I last worked there.
I have the basic right for a roof over my head but doesn’t mean I don’t have to pay my rent. If I get thrown out of my house I still have basic rights, including food, water, clothing, housing, medical care and other necessary social services, including internet access as it is required to have interaction with government social services.
Water will only stay connected if it has medical emergency, otherwise it will be disconnected when bills are not paid and no reaction from the customer. One can ask for water containers before disconnection. Water company’s are required to give each person in the household a minimum of 3 liters per day for 4 days. Government will intermediate between company and customer for re-connection through a debt counselling program.
Trying to force ISP’s to police their user’s internet traffic, as a means to stop piracy, is phenomenally stupid. All they’ve managed to do is make the internet worse for the average user while forcing a dramatic increase in the sophistication of piracy technology.
Hell, I would argue that the state and quality of pirated media is in some ways the best it’s ever been and the recording and film industries have indirectly contributed to that. Talk about irony.
Exactly how I ended up on debrid, I don’t know what the hell I’m doing anymore, I don’t mind paying but I got fed up with everything getting fractured and torn apart due to greedy ass licensing, I wouldn’t have even minded the price increases if it was one, maybe two, services but it’s absolutely ridiculous. I remember paying for up faith and family for a month to binge a show I wanted to watch and really started questioning how dumb I’d become. I got my moneys worth (imo) since I canceled after a month but I don’t have any desire to play the subscribe and cancel game either and it’s become pervasive if you just want to watch something. I knew it would get bad but I’d hoped for better, like Netflix and another competitor fighting for distribution supremacy kind of like Steam. That went to compete shit and I was naive af.
Thats what I think is funny about the whole thing. They’d effectively won against piracy then were like “cool everyone is paying now LETS FUCKIN DRAIN THE SLUTS”
I agree. But I would go further and say if other industries didnt have more complex schemes and locked down IP (eg car manufacturing), people would def build their own shit with current tools. Its always the greed of those not willing to invest in innovation that keeps progress away. Media piracy and FOSS culture are the only real challengers to greed imo.
Probably because if we admit that it’s a necessity of the modern age like power and water, it would basically need to be metered like a utility, and there goes all the profits with flat rate “up to” speed pricing that most people don’t even remotely use.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Major record labels sued Verizon on Friday, alleging that the Internet service provider violated copyright law by continuing to serve customers accused of pirating music.
They say that “Verizon has knowingly contributed to, and reaped substantial profits from, massive copyright infringement committed by tens of thousands of its subscribers.”
Cox received support from groups such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which warned that the big money judgment could cause broadband providers to disconnect people from the Internet based only on accusations of copyright infringement.
While judges in the Cox case reversed a vicarious liability verdict, they affirmed the jury’s additional finding of willful contributory infringement and ordered a new damages trial.
“Yet rather than taking any steps to address its customers’ illegal use of its network, Verizon deliberately chose to ignore Plaintiffs’ notices, willfully blinding itself to that information and prioritizing its own profits over its legal obligations.”
The lawsuit also complains that Verizon hasn’t made it easier for copyright owners to file complaints about Internet users:
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Next, Google will sue Comcast because they allow users to watch YouTube videos over Newpipe.
NewPipe is legal though
Potato/tomato.
I guess they did DMCA source code for legal software (youtube-dl). But long live yt-dlp
At the end of the day, all these huge tech firms have left is to try and fuck with the people that know better and are looking to get off from under their thumb. Google is going to keep trying to break every workaround we use, so will Microsoft, Meta, Apple and every single ad-ridden and anti-privacy company out there.
However, just look around. People are waking up. The Lemmy communities just keep growing, more and more people are eliminating their mainstream social media and Google accounts. That fuck-up on Friday worldwide will have many companies reevaluating if it’s worth it to remain on Windows. In short, the internet revolution has already started, and it will hit critical mass at some point (5 years, 10 years, hard to tell).
This is the reason why so many companies are lobbying (which I see just as a pretty word for bribing) to scan before encryption and making it law. They know their golden egg goose is finally dying.
I finally got all my family and friends on Simplex, and they in turn are getting their friends onto it as well. I’m very happy with what I’m seeing.
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Fuck record labels, having an internet connection is a basic human right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access
I barely trust my VPN but it’s far more reliable than any “rights”.
If it’s an actual human right how come it gets cut off if you don’t pay your bills?
I used to work for a water company in an admin role and one of the things that I learned was we can’t actually cut people’s water off because it’s a safety issue and a human right to have access to water at all times. If people didn’t pay their bills all that really happened was they got threatening letters but nothing ever actually happened to their water supply.
Also cutting off water is a pain because you have to physically send an engineer out to go do it you can’t do it remotely. At least not in 2011 when I last worked there.
I have the basic right for a roof over my head but doesn’t mean I don’t have to pay my rent. If I get thrown out of my house I still have basic rights, including food, water, clothing, housing, medical care and other necessary social services, including internet access as it is required to have interaction with government social services.
Water will only stay connected if it has medical emergency, otherwise it will be disconnected when bills are not paid and no reaction from the customer. One can ask for water containers before disconnection. Water company’s are required to give each person in the household a minimum of 3 liters per day for 4 days. Government will intermediate between company and customer for re-connection through a debt counselling program.
That’s how basic rights work over here.
Edit: added “per day”.
Someone should sue the Roads Company for not stopping speeding and exchange of mp3 CDs.
Trying to force ISP’s to police their user’s internet traffic, as a means to stop piracy, is phenomenally stupid. All they’ve managed to do is make the internet worse for the average user while forcing a dramatic increase in the sophistication of piracy technology.
Hell, I would argue that the state and quality of pirated media is in some ways the best it’s ever been and the recording and film industries have indirectly contributed to that. Talk about irony.
I know if I was an ISP, I’d be like, Oh shit, we lost those logs again.
Fast forward 24 hours
Awww shit, it happened again
And so on…
They know what they are doing. They are just trying to make enough hurdles to ensure normies don’t switch.
Piracy is deff on the rise but I doubt it will go mainstream and that’s what’s need to properly punish these rent seekers
Sure might be on the rise but still down from its peak.
streaming services were good, most of us just paid for it during that time many people lost the skills and wills to do the job.
gonna take a while for people to get properly pissed to retrain.
Exactly how I ended up on debrid, I don’t know what the hell I’m doing anymore, I don’t mind paying but I got fed up with everything getting fractured and torn apart due to greedy ass licensing, I wouldn’t have even minded the price increases if it was one, maybe two, services but it’s absolutely ridiculous. I remember paying for up faith and family for a month to binge a show I wanted to watch and really started questioning how dumb I’d become. I got my moneys worth (imo) since I canceled after a month but I don’t have any desire to play the subscribe and cancel game either and it’s become pervasive if you just want to watch something. I knew it would get bad but I’d hoped for better, like Netflix and another competitor fighting for distribution supremacy kind of like Steam. That went to compete shit and I was naive af.
Thats what I think is funny about the whole thing. They’d effectively won against piracy then were like “cool everyone is paying now LETS FUCKIN DRAIN THE SLUTS”
I agree. But I would go further and say if other industries didnt have more complex schemes and locked down IP (eg car manufacturing), people would def build their own shit with current tools. Its always the greed of those not willing to invest in innovation that keeps progress away. Media piracy and FOSS culture are the only real challengers to greed imo.
Internet shutoff orders (including for nonpayment) should require a court approval IMO.
Agreed. I don’t understand why internet access gets treated as some sort of luxury when it is impossible to function as part of society without it.
Probably because if we admit that it’s a necessity of the modern age like power and water, it would basically need to be metered like a utility, and there goes all the profits with flat rate “up to” speed pricing that most people don’t even remotely use.