Hi guys I’m looking for hosting own audio server. So far I have run Roon and Plex. Server I want to host is on remote machine and want to stream to iOS, Android TV and Desktop. Would be great if it also would let me organize my library (that part might also be separate app)
Call me crazy, but I’m using jellyfin + beet for backend. Native Jellyfin client on PC and Sympfonium on mobile. Works for me. But my library is small less than 50k tracks.
Free I recommend jellyfin and use finamp, but I don’t know it will have all the features you need (yet).
If you’re willing to shell out some money then Plex does all of what you need, and it’s hard for me to think of anything that comes with PlexAmp, which requires PlexPass (subscription or one time lifetime purchase). The organization of the music is really nice too, however I run everything through Picard musicbrainz first anyway
I can recommend Navidrome. Organizing of library with Lidarr and (Beets)[https://beets.io]
I’m using Beets for tagging because of the Discogs plugin.
Lidarr for visual overview of the library.
You are right Beets doesn’t allow for custom id3v2 fields.
However it has quite a lot of fields ‘’’beet fields’’’
You can write them specifically using ‘’’-F’’’
(Beets doc)[https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/stable/reference/cli.html#fields]
I’m not aware of a publisher nor producer field though.
I used https://www.blisshq.com/ to organize my music library and it destory my setup moved songs to separated albums and for example one album got splited into separate random folders.
Lidarr can be used for tagging too and it does have a web interface.
Cleaning a messed up library with Beets is tough and depends on how the individual files are sorted.
Start importing/organizing a small part or some albums to find out how it works. And a backup of data is always recommend!
you need to be organised with beet. Import your music one album after an other. use “-t” to be sure that beet is guessing albums correctly. It is lot of work, but once it done it is smooth sailing.
Roon is expensive, but if you are a serious music fan, it’s 100% worth it.
I describe it to others as like talking to a super knowledgeable music store employee. It knows so much about each track, each musician, each band… cross-referencing them all, so you can go down a rabbit hole of hyperlinks learning about the music. It seamlessly mixes playlists across streaming and locally stored music. It does a decent job of streaming around the house to Apple, android, and audiophile devices. They just added an app that enables remote listening to your locally stored music.
I have active Roon subscribtion though most issue is that Remote connection works clunky. The desktop app is only on windows and also Siri on iOS do not support song selection with voice commands.
Love Roon. I also have Navidrome in my server but found out a docker image of RoonServer and my gosh, I love it. I need a webapp to control it from my Linux desktop, otherwise, perfect (and expensive).
I would recommend something compatible with the subsonic API, because some clients are great, and there’s always one decent for every major platform. That leaves us with:
depending on how much configurability you need and how many resources you are willing to throw at it. Navidrome is still quite crashy, though, while airsonic ticks like a clock.
Had for years airsonic, later airsonic advanced. The overhead is huge compared to Navidrome.
Had never an issue with Navidrome and it is much snappier. No even starting to talk about the modern interface compared to Airsonic.
Airsonic is a Java-server app, so it takes a lot of memory because it’s optimizing for high-thoughput and high-load. You can customize the JVM settings to make it much leaner! (but not as much as navidrome, sure).
Regarding the UI, I generally don’t play my music in a web-browser, but I get the sentiment :)
Navidrome for the server, and its WebUI for the desktop, and Synfonium for Android (https://symfonium.app/)
Not using iOS so can’t suggest anything there.
I tried jellyfin but it was too slow to index my library. So I switched to navidrome.
It works and it indexes music very fast.
Searching for songs is for some reason slow.
It only works with tags so browsing by folders is not possible. My workaround is a script that auto creates playlists in folders with songs from different artists/albums.
Ios app play:sub is nice.
I use Navidrome with play:Sub (paid) or Amperfy (free as in beer) on iOS. I also use the Volusonic plugin with Volumio to play music throughout the house. All my music is curated using MusicBrainz Picard and the files are mounted read-only for Navidrome.
I looked at Roon briefly, and I know many people like it, but I can’t justify the cost. Plex and I don’t get along; pretty sure it’s operator error and/or grumpiness. Jellyfin looks promising, but I ran into challenges with it as well. I think if you’re just hosting music, then Navidrome is fine. If you think you might expand to series or films, something like Plex or Jellyfin could be better long term.
I’d recommend navidrome over jellyfin, even if you have an existing jellyfin instance. It’s just that much better. Lidarr does a pretty good job organizing files, even if that’s not how you’re acquiring your music, but Picard is great. I use a Picard docker right on my server that streams the ui in a browser.
And another vote for Navidrome. I use it vith DSub frontend (the only one I’ve found that supports DLNA, for playing back on any DLNA renderer device) and Tailscale for remote access.
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Call me crazy, but I’m using jellyfin + beet for backend. Native Jellyfin client on PC and Sympfonium on mobile. Works for me. But my library is small less than 50k tracks.
Another vote for Navidrome.
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Free I recommend jellyfin and use finamp, but I don’t know it will have all the features you need (yet).
If you’re willing to shell out some money then Plex does all of what you need, and it’s hard for me to think of anything that comes with PlexAmp, which requires PlexPass (subscription or one time lifetime purchase). The organization of the music is really nice too, however I run everything through Picard musicbrainz first anyway
I’ve tried a few deficient servers but always came back to Plex. Plexamp just organise things really well and is slick on all platforms.
I use both plex and navidrome server side love them both
I paid for and don’t regret Plex pass so I could access PlexAmp. It’s quite nice. Will it be worth the price for others? I’m not sure.
Navidrone is pretty great. Clients are hit or miss.
I can recommend Navidrome. Organizing of library with Lidarr and (Beets)[https://beets.io]
I’m using Beets for tagging because of the Discogs plugin.
Lidarr for visual overview of the library.
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You are right Beets doesn’t allow for custom id3v2 fields.
However it has quite a lot of fields ‘’’beet fields’’’
You can write them specifically using ‘’’-F’’’
(Beets doc)[https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/stable/reference/cli.html#fields]
I’m not aware of a publisher nor producer field though.
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Any opinion on EasyTAG? I’ve been using it for many years and been quite happy with it.
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I used https://www.blisshq.com/ to organize my music library and it destory my setup moved songs to separated albums and for example one album got splited into separate random folders.
Lidarr can be used for tagging too and it does have a web interface.
Cleaning a messed up library with Beets is tough and depends on how the individual files are sorted. Start importing/organizing a small part or some albums to find out how it works. And a backup of data is always recommend!
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you need to be organised with beet. Import your music one album after an other. use “-t” to be sure that beet is guessing albums correctly. It is lot of work, but once it done it is smooth sailing.
Roon is expensive, but if you are a serious music fan, it’s 100% worth it.
I describe it to others as like talking to a super knowledgeable music store employee. It knows so much about each track, each musician, each band… cross-referencing them all, so you can go down a rabbit hole of hyperlinks learning about the music. It seamlessly mixes playlists across streaming and locally stored music. It does a decent job of streaming around the house to Apple, android, and audiophile devices. They just added an app that enables remote listening to your locally stored music.
I have active Roon subscribtion though most issue is that Remote connection works clunky. The desktop app is only on windows and also Siri on iOS do not support song selection with voice commands.
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Sadly no :/
Love Roon. I also have Navidrome in my server but found out a docker image of RoonServer and my gosh, I love it. I need a webapp to control it from my Linux desktop, otherwise, perfect (and expensive).
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I use my phone and tablet to control the server. But, wouldn’t it be possible to run the android app on a Linux desktop?
I would recommend something compatible with the subsonic API, because some clients are great, and there’s always one decent for every major platform. That leaves us with:
https://github.com/airsonic-advanced/airsonic-advanced
https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome
depending on how much configurability you need and how many resources you are willing to throw at it. Navidrome is still quite crashy, though, while airsonic ticks like a clock.
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I’m pretty confident it does it better. Navidrome is a very young reimplementation of sub/airsonic after all…
Had for years airsonic, later airsonic advanced. The overhead is huge compared to Navidrome.
Had never an issue with Navidrome and it is much snappier. No even starting to talk about the modern interface compared to Airsonic.
Airsonic is a Java-server app, so it takes a lot of memory because it’s optimizing for high-thoughput and high-load. You can customize the JVM settings to make it much leaner! (but not as much as navidrome, sure).
Regarding the UI, I generally don’t play my music in a web-browser, but I get the sentiment :)
Your friends will comment on interface when you share music to them :)
Hardly using the UI myself ;)
Good point!
Yeah, I’ve never had an issue with Navidrome.
Navidrome for the server, and its WebUI for the desktop, and Synfonium for Android (https://symfonium.app/) Not using iOS so can’t suggest anything there.
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The link opens for me without issues, but just in case this is the Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.symfonik.music.player
Unfortunately its not FOSS, and it is a paid app with time limited trial.
I tried jellyfin but it was too slow to index my library. So I switched to navidrome. It works and it indexes music very fast. Searching for songs is for some reason slow. It only works with tags so browsing by folders is not possible. My workaround is a script that auto creates playlists in folders with songs from different artists/albums. Ios app play:sub is nice.
I am happy with it so far.
I use Navidrome with play:Sub (paid) or Amperfy (free as in beer) on iOS. I also use the Volusonic plugin with Volumio to play music throughout the house. All my music is curated using MusicBrainz Picard and the files are mounted read-only for Navidrome.
I looked at Roon briefly, and I know many people like it, but I can’t justify the cost. Plex and I don’t get along; pretty sure it’s operator error and/or grumpiness. Jellyfin looks promising, but I ran into challenges with it as well. I think if you’re just hosting music, then Navidrome is fine. If you think you might expand to series or films, something like Plex or Jellyfin could be better long term.
I’d recommend navidrome over jellyfin, even if you have an existing jellyfin instance. It’s just that much better. Lidarr does a pretty good job organizing files, even if that’s not how you’re acquiring your music, but Picard is great. I use a Picard docker right on my server that streams the ui in a browser.
And another vote for Navidrome. I use it vith DSub frontend (the only one I’ve found that supports DLNA, for playing back on any DLNA renderer device) and Tailscale for remote access.
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I haven’t really used smart playlists, so I cannot comment on that