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The Web Browser is the new TeleVision.

There is too much financial power to corrupt for us to win this fight.

The way out is to ditch HTTPS, HTML & CSS and create a new spec that is purposely limited in its scope suchas Gopher or Gemini (although I might argue Gemini is slightly too narrow as I think it would need Images, Audio & Video and maybe Input Forms depending on scope)

HTTP & HTML must die. It had a good run, it’s time for a new Hyper v2 world outside the mainstream downtown doofus hangouts of social media & Advertising impersonating Internet Things like search, social & email.

We need a new web browser without all the legacy garbage & complexities. Without the DRM corruption shoehorned by Amazon, Disney, Netflix & Google.

And it needs to be limited by design to just what is needed so financial interests can’t corrupt & screw it up.

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Straight up, Firefox isn’t search, so that’s never going to be competitive. Changing from Google is easy though. That aside though …

Comparing Firefox to Chrome is a little complicated as it comes default on pretty much all Android phones. Yes, we can change, but it’s still installed and running services in the background if I recall. I really hope the move away from useful extensions takes a toll on chrome and brings users over to Firefox.

Million dollar salaries are excessive IMHO and rarely justified. I’m with you on that.

Some things Mozilla does, and doesn’t do, have been instrumental in not only bringing awareness, but security for the web and triggering dialogue. That openness is important and not something Google has been known for.

Google may be covering their butt funding Firefox, but an Internet without Firefox may look much different today.

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Yes, we can change, but it’s still installed and running services in the background if I recall.

You can disable or remove Chrome depending on your device

I run a simple combo of Firefox and Kiwi Browser so I get a taste of both browser engines and don’t really have any issues since I get extensions too in both.

The thing we do need to be observant about is Google Play Services and its tentacles of that sticky little system-priv framework and what it can do. AFAIK, it can still use Chrome even if disabled/removed during a Factory Reset and why there are FRP exploits using Chrome + webviews.

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I agree. What alternative do we have though? Firefox is dependent on google, but at least they’re more private and secure.

Ellia Plissken
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genuine question, what should we do about it?

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Literally nothing.

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He’s out of line but he’s right.

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Your opinions are bad, you should feel bad, and you posted this to the wrong community.

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Does he honestly believe that an single browser company can take down google by checks notes LOSING 85% of their resources?

Gonna guess the poster is very young

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To be fair, Mozilla does have a lot of problems. It’s just that starting out with an unsupportable premise like “Firefox is just a puppet for Google” is not the way to do a good job of describing them accurately or in a way that’s going to convince anyone.

This is called Controlled Opposition.

The Oil Companies do the same thing – fund the leaders of anti-oil activists in countries where they are not #1 and use them as a proxy to target and harm their competitors.

Profit. Rinse & repeat.

Mafia tactics. The oil companies let government money and investors innovate in the solar industry and pay all the upfront costs. Then did a controlled collapsed and bought the companies IP up in bankruptcy for pennies to the dollar. And now that the oil companies own the Patents & IP it’s totally okay for you to morally buy their products.

The bottom line is that The House Always Wins and what matters is who is allowed to collect the money for the grift. Territory of who is allowed to buy & sell on what streets.

We would be better off if Firefox didn’t exist and the EU broke up Google for Anti-trust. At least then Manifest v3.0 DRM might not have come to be.

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I do often see blogs of what they’re doing, from products to talks to hosting events etc. for, among others, a more free internet.

That said, a company with 600 million USD revenue, with a CEO taking 1% of that revenue by themselves, is pretty standard. Higher percentage in much smaller companies.

But I do agree, if 81% of their revenue comes from Google investments, and Google uses “Well Firefox exists” as an excuse for a lack of competition, then that is shady.

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Nothing new. Mozilla could disappear tomorrow and a few dozens of people may notice it, if even. They’re basically useless at this point.

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