wow i didnt finish reading cuz im pressed for time but this is scary and glad it fell in our favorable direction. if this had been decided another way I would’ve been beefing my shit up for sure. my fingerprints are all over this shit I’m sure. No way was I being smart back in 2011 type shit and I’m sure its not hard to figure it out if they really want and get the court involved.
You should be smarter going forward. There is ZERO chance this is the end. Film companies are going to keep trying this shit over and over again hoping to get a bite. And it seems with the splintering of streaming services coupled with price increases lots of previous pirates are returning to their old habits.
This doesn’t seem to be about busting users for torrenting, but Texas ISP Grande apparently made no attempt to stop torrenting and these users would be witnesses in this case. Either way, it’s a win for privacy that the information is not being released.
I thought the comments from Reddit user SquirtyBottoms were especially based…
User SquirtyBottoms said, “[l]ike everyone else I miss Grande and I’m stuck with Spectrum or AT&T in my area. I use Spectrum. Those fuckers have turned my connection off completely on one occasion and would not turn it back on until I agreed to stop pirating media.”
the film companies filed a motion to compel Reddit to respond to a subpoena demanding “basic account information including IP address registration and logs from 1/1/2016 to present, name, email address and other account registration information”
who the fuck fills that in on account registration anyways? do they even have a field for your name?
Because reddit makes you think it’s needed. It’s cheeky you have to skip the email entry or leave it empty with nothing telling you that it’s optional.
@Ilandar You get penalized if you don’t. In particular, if reddit decides to “lock your account for suspicious activity, please change password to re-enable” you can’t do that and your account is just gone
Possibly true, but what you’re theoretically looking at isn’t hosting pirated content. It’s a link aggregator that finds an available file to stream to you from servers that already have the full file, which may or may not have been assembled from a legitimate source or torrent. Legally, this gives them a layer of plausible deniability - disclaimer IANAL.
So if this one goes down, as it probably will, someone else will just build another streaming link aggregator that does the exact same thing - there’s more than few out there. This is just basically round 238,592,394,321 of internet whack-a-mole.
It’s a link aggregator that finds an available file to stream to you from servers that already have the full file, which may or may not have been assembled from a legitimate source or torrent.
That’s literally the argument they use for torrents as well. They don’t host any material, just point to it. And they are still being taken down left and right for breaking some law or another in regards to that.
Y’all are beginning to crack me up. You know each time you drop a reply, you’re increasing the exposure of this particular theoretical site right? I didn’t say they had perfect plausible deniability, just an extra layer of it, and whatever action taken against it won’t stop the servers they’re aggregating from, which are accessed by a lot of other apps that do exactly the same thing. Nuking this theoretical aggregator is like plucking a dandelion and thinking you’re done with weeding the lawn - it’s really just not worth the time unless they go after the servers themselves.
Fortunately, it’s really hard to make lemmy comments shows up in search engine right now. Even if I search GP’s username and part of their comment, I could not get his comment to appear in google search. On reddit the comments usually searchable on google in mere hours.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Until the admins receive a nice check in the mail for submitting user data, then it’ll happen overnight
wow i didnt finish reading cuz im pressed for time but this is scary and glad it fell in our favorable direction. if this had been decided another way I would’ve been beefing my shit up for sure. my fingerprints are all over this shit I’m sure. No way was I being smart back in 2011 type shit and I’m sure its not hard to figure it out if they really want and get the court involved.
You should be smarter going forward. There is ZERO chance this is the end. Film companies are going to keep trying this shit over and over again hoping to get a bite. And it seems with the splintering of streaming services coupled with price increases lots of previous pirates are returning to their old habits.
I didn’t even know this was a thing. Damn. Glad it turned out this way though.
This doesn’t seem to be about busting users for torrenting, but Texas ISP Grande apparently made no attempt to stop torrenting and these users would be witnesses in this case. Either way, it’s a win for privacy that the information is not being released.
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I thought the comments from Reddit user SquirtyBottoms were especially based…
Is this before days of mass VPN usage?
Back when I was young and stupid, my ISP had a 3 strike program before they just terminated your entire contact.
Don’t forget about roboweiner
Great, now they can sell it instead of having to give it away for free.
spaz right now looking like: 🤑🤑🤑
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Begone, ye demon
This is great. No way they should be able to do that. Who knows what we posted on reddit over a decade ago. Why does it matter?
who the fuck fills that in on account registration anyways? do they even have a field for your name?
From what I remember, they only asked for a username and an optional email address.
@mrbubblesort @gsa32 no, but they’d have to answer with whatever they do have, which is your email address and IP addresses
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Because reddit makes you think it’s needed. It’s cheeky you have to skip the email entry or leave it empty with nothing telling you that it’s optional.
@Ilandar You get penalized if you don’t. In particular, if reddit decides to “lock your account for suspicious activity, please change password to re-enable” you can’t do that and your account is just gone
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Are you saying you do not care about internet points? Outrageous!
For all the Redditors now breathing a sigh of relief, grab a beer, take a load off, and remember, remember, the 5th of November.
You can kill an man, but not the idea. thank you sir!
Now that is a useful website.
It’s too good, best I’ve seen actually.
and the movie is great as well
No kidding
Its a really bad idea to link directly to such sites, especially ones as good as this. You’ll just accelerate their demise.
Possibly true, but what you’re theoretically looking at isn’t hosting pirated content. It’s a link aggregator that finds an available file to stream to you from servers that already have the full file, which may or may not have been assembled from a legitimate source or torrent. Legally, this gives them a layer of plausible deniability - disclaimer IANAL.
So if this one goes down, as it probably will, someone else will just build another streaming link aggregator that does the exact same thing - there’s more than few out there. This is just basically round 238,592,394,321 of internet whack-a-mole.
Thank you Mr. Wizard. Is there a wiki, community or magazine for these knowledge?
That’s literally the argument they use for torrents as well. They don’t host any material, just point to it. And they are still being taken down left and right for breaking some law or another in regards to that.
Y’all are beginning to crack me up. You know each time you drop a reply, you’re increasing the exposure of this particular theoretical site right? I didn’t say they had perfect plausible deniability, just an extra layer of it, and whatever action taken against it won’t stop the servers they’re aggregating from, which are accessed by a lot of other apps that do exactly the same thing. Nuking this theoretical aggregator is like plucking a dandelion and thinking you’re done with weeding the lawn - it’s really just not worth the time unless they go after the servers themselves.
Fortunately, it’s really hard to make lemmy comments shows up in search engine right now. Even if I search GP’s username and part of their comment, I could not get his comment to appear in google search. On reddit the comments usually searchable on google in mere hours.
In the spirit of this thread, you should have linked the torrent magnet