I’ve used Nextcloud for a long while but only for cloud storage and photo backup from my phone. I’ve moved the latter to Immich and just replaced the cloud storage with Seafile.
So far everything is hunky dory but I was wondering if anyone who’s run Seafile for longer has any insights for things to watch out for with it. I’m following the documentation backup solution and I’m the only user (so the whole db/file de sync during backup isn’t an issue)
I mean they’re synced super fast to every file system. It works really well. Wayyy wayyy faster than nextcloud too. You can access them on that file system. If you want to “directly” access them you can always use the fuse driver. This being said there isn’t really a need to because all the files just are synced to your file system.
Seafile is compatible with webdav and fuse. Fuse allows to mount folders as drives, webdav is a webaccess protocol which can also be mounted as drive I believe.
Only restriction I know : fuse cannot mount encrypted folders.
Nextcloud was too slow and bloated for me. I used Seafile for years and it was fine, but at some point I went to some more simple setup : sftpgo to share folders (sftp, dav) and syncthing for the folders I want to sync between devices. You can also set ignore lists in syncthing to ignore large dirs.
Keep it simple stupid 😅
I think garbage collection is a thing that needs to be run on a regular basis. If you’re using the community edition of Seafile, you’ll need to shut down its services and run an offline garbage collection. If you get a pro license (I think up to 3 users are free), you can run the garbage collection online, i.e. without shutting down the service.
Android app doesn’t have file search last I checked (pro feature).
No full text search on app or website (pro feature)
The app will just randomly stop being able to connect to the database. I use docker and mariadb. It will just fail for no reason. Restarting the docker stack doesn’t fix it. I use the redeploy button on portainer to get it working again. I use lots of databases in many docker apps, nothing else does this.
I haven’t, but it’s on my list. I also want to try copyparty. Currently, I use SFTPGo, it works pretty well. They both don’t support Nextcloud apps, but I use Round Sync on my phone.
hey, copyparty dev here - I’ll be upfront and warn that if you’re looking for a service to do full bidirectional file syncing, with proper file tracking and versioning, then something like syncthing is a better choice. Copyparty is able to do single-direction syncing of local folders to the server pretty well (using copyparty’s u2c or rclone), but that’s about it.
But if you’re looking for something to handle file uploads faster than many alternatives, or any of the other features listed in the readme, then I’d be happy to help if you ever get stuck somewhere :>
Thanks for your reply! I actually already use both Syncthing and WebDAV. The latter mostly for copying backups and files in between my phone and my server, no bidirectional stuff.
I’ve been periodically checking on your project and look forward to trying it out, it looks great! I’m very impressed by the depth of features and the quality of the information in the README.
Just an update to say that I’ve setup copyparty and it’s working very well. Speeds are excellent. I found an issue, but it wasn’t with copyparty. When uploading large files with rclone, the transfer size would keep increasing and the upload would never finish. I use traefik as a reverse-proxy and it would terminate requests after 60s. After I disabled that timeout, everything worked perfectly. There’s a good explanation here if anyone ever comes to you with a similar problem: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/8872
I did give it a go but had trouble getting it work properly. I deployed via docker compose. The Nextcloud or owncloud clients didn’t seem to work with it unfortunately.
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All of your files are now in a proprietary directory unlike nextcloud, enjoy
That was one reason I procrastinated so long about moving. But I figured I’d take the plunge and see how I get on
I went NC, seafile, NC for the same reasons. NC is way too bloated but it does file sync well.
Seafile is lightning fast but I don’t feel comfortable only being able to access files through their apps.
All his files are secure and properly synced… unlike Nextcloud.
Yes but you can’t access them outside of seafile, which is a downside for me
I mean they’re synced super fast to every file system. It works really well. Wayyy wayyy faster than nextcloud too. You can access them on that file system. If you want to “directly” access them you can always use the fuse driver. This being said there isn’t really a need to because all the files just are synced to your file system.
https://manual.seafile.com/latest/extension/fuse/
Seafile is compatible with webdav and fuse. Fuse allows to mount folders as drives, webdav is a webaccess protocol which can also be mounted as drive I believe.
Only restriction I know : fuse cannot mount encrypted folders.
I don’t understand your message. What did you wanna say with “proprietary directly” and “unlock Nextcloud”?
I meant unlike! Thanks
👍🏼
If you are the only user then use seafile pro. It’s free for up to 3 users.
Good point. I will make that move
Nextcloud was too slow and bloated for me. I used Seafile for years and it was fine, but at some point I went to some more simple setup : sftpgo to share folders (sftp, dav) and syncthing for the folders I want to sync between devices. You can also set ignore lists in syncthing to ignore large dirs. Keep it simple stupid 😅
I think garbage collection is a thing that needs to be run on a regular basis. If you’re using the community edition of Seafile, you’ll need to shut down its services and run an offline garbage collection. If you get a pro license (I think up to 3 users are free), you can run the garbage collection online, i.e. without shutting down the service.
Android app doesn’t have file search last I checked (pro feature).
No full text search on app or website (pro feature)
The app will just randomly stop being able to connect to the database. I use docker and mariadb. It will just fail for no reason. Restarting the docker stack doesn’t fix it. I use the redeploy button on portainer to get it working again. I use lots of databases in many docker apps, nothing else does this.
I want to change to owncloud OCIS
I’ve tried OCIS in a docker and just couldn’t get it to work properly. If you have a good tutorial please share!
The annoying part is making and mounting the configuration file. https://owncloud.dev/ocis/guides/ocis-local-docker/
I’ve been meaning to try https://github.com/kd2org/karadav out, lightweight server that supports nextcloud applications. Has anyone else tried it out?
I haven’t, but it’s on my list. I also want to try copyparty. Currently, I use SFTPGo, it works pretty well. They both don’t support Nextcloud apps, but I use Round Sync on my phone.
hey, copyparty dev here - I’ll be upfront and warn that if you’re looking for a service to do full bidirectional file syncing, with proper file tracking and versioning, then something like syncthing is a better choice. Copyparty is able to do single-direction syncing of local folders to the server pretty well (using copyparty’s u2c or rclone), but that’s about it.
But if you’re looking for something to handle file uploads faster than many alternatives, or any of the other features listed in the readme, then I’d be happy to help if you ever get stuck somewhere :>
Thanks for your reply! I actually already use both Syncthing and WebDAV. The latter mostly for copying backups and files in between my phone and my server, no bidirectional stuff.
I’ve been periodically checking on your project and look forward to trying it out, it looks great! I’m very impressed by the depth of features and the quality of the information in the README.
Just an update to say that I’ve setup copyparty and it’s working very well. Speeds are excellent. I found an issue, but it wasn’t with copyparty. When uploading large files with rclone, the transfer size would keep increasing and the upload would never finish. I use traefik as a reverse-proxy and it would terminate requests after 60s. After I disabled that timeout, everything worked perfectly. There’s a good explanation here if anyone ever comes to you with a similar problem: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/8872
Awesome!! And thanks for mentioning the traefik thing; I added it to the example so maybe it’ll help somebody else one day :>
I did give it a go but had trouble getting it work properly. I deployed via docker compose. The Nextcloud or owncloud clients didn’t seem to work with it unfortunately.