President Donald Trump says his 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico are coming on Saturday. Trump also said he'll "probably” decide on Thursday night whether to include oil from those countries as part of his import taxes.
I’d rather not give up currency sovereignty. Closer economic and military ties, sure, but not full membership. There’s also the reality that some of the most powerful economies in the EU in Germany and France are flirting with their own neo-fascist movements.
Can you please explain why you think currency sovereignty is such a big hangup? I see lots of potential issues with joining the EU, but having to use the Euro doesn’t even register for me as a problem.
See my reply to the other commenter in this thread. Additionally, currency sovereignty is a cornerstone of modern monetary theory, were Canada to want to adopt something like that.
i agree, and never said it was, however currency sovereignty being a sacred cow isn’t a great way to form policy
why is it good? what does it give you? (youve answered in another comment a couple; there are plenty!)
but single market relies on single currency, and that gets you a whole lot too. you said you’d like to join the EU but not the single currency, but the UK proved that situation was sorta shit for the whole EU
you can’t really be part of the single market the way it’s intended without being part of the single currency
Because national control over the Canadian dollar gives us a lot of flexibility that adopting the Euro would take away. Particularly in a country that is about to have to attract new trading partners to buy our exports, the ability to devalue our dollar to make those exports more attractive is going to be important.
You’re missing the point, he’s bought the rights to all of the “I did that!” sticker manufacturers. When he skyrockets prices, he’ll make a mint on the ensuing sticker wars. I think it’s called “sticker shock” or something…
Give them the extra profit if we have to. The rest of us are all willing to make sacrifices, sometimes it’s easier to give the baby a soother than listen to their incessant whining.
I hope we throw in somethingn into the retaliatory package like vehicles entering the Canadian boarder need to be zero emissions, those trying to enter with non compliant vehicles will have them seized at the boarder.
That alone should keep most riff raff out of Canada.
As funny as this is, in practice we want them coming up here to spend money.
What we’ll do, like last time, is tariff in a very targeted way, hitting specific products where consumers have easy access to alternatives. Like slapping tariffs on bourbon, for example.
I both love and hate comments like this (and say that having made more than a few of them myself). It’s great to see people sharing advice on how to cook better, do more for yourself, do more at home, etc. I really enjoy making my own pickles, baking bread, making home made stock from scraps.
On the other hand, it disgusts me that comments like this are necessary. It’s the twenty first century, humanity has built flying machines, travelled into space and harnessed the power of the atom, and we’re out here sharing basic survival advice with each in the hopes of making it through one more day. Shouldn’t our basic standard of living be better than that of hunter-gatherers by now?
My mom learned this cooking from her mom growing up in the depression. She would not throw out anything and always kept a stacked cellar of very old canned foods she had collected over the years.
I cook this way to connect back to my roots and it makes me happy, it’s what I ate as a kid. That we are in a place where food banks are at all time high demand and this advice is needed is sad.
Even the great depression was, itself, an entirely artificial crisis.
I’m not saying that it occurred artificially; the causes were all real, and happened naturally.
But if you consider for even a moment the idea that a stock market crash leads to widespread starvation, it doesn’t make the slightest bit of sense.
Times of hardship used to be caused by things like droughts or harsh winters; stuff that actually impacted our ability to support ourselves in a physical way.
But how does someone’s investments failing prevent a farm from growing food? Does crop fertility track with the Dow-Jones? Does soil become less tillable because the FTSE is down?
The idea that people should starve, in a world that has no less ability to produce crops than it did yesterday, just because there is suddenly less money moving around, is absolute lunacy. In a sensible world, we’d think less about money and more about resources. Resources do not depend on the stock market. Resources do not become more scarce because a bunch of people made bad bets on the housing market.
No one should starve in a world with the capacity to feed everyone. And we have more than the capacity to feed everyone.
Iirc, there was also a majorly catastrophic weather event ripping through the majority of prime farmland around the start of the Great Depression that caused tons and tons of crops to fail as a result, which would’ve made access to food scarce and likely more expensive.
I believe it was The great dust bowl that happened around 1934/1935, but I’d have to double check
OK, that’s fair. I’d forgotten about that particular detail. More fool me. But it’s notable that no such catastrophe existed in 2008, and no such catastrophe exists today, and yet we’re still struggling to put food on plates despite more than enough food existing for everyone.
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Canada come join us in the EU.
Yes, please. We share a terrestrial border with Denmark and a maritime border with France.
Bring Mexico with you. We are going to enrich European culture with tamales and poutine.
I’d rather not give up currency sovereignty. Closer economic and military ties, sure, but not full membership. There’s also the reality that some of the most powerful economies in the EU in Germany and France are flirting with their own neo-fascist movements.
Can you please explain why you think currency sovereignty is such a big hangup? I see lots of potential issues with joining the EU, but having to use the Euro doesn’t even register for me as a problem.
See my reply to the other commenter in this thread. Additionally, currency sovereignty is a cornerstone of modern monetary theory, were Canada to want to adopt something like that.
okay but it’s also kinda the cornerstone of the single market sooooo
Giving up your national currency for one managed by the European Central Bank is the opposite of currency sovereignty.
i agree, and never said it was, however currency sovereignty being a sacred cow isn’t a great way to form policy
why is it good? what does it give you? (youve answered in another comment a couple; there are plenty!)
but single market relies on single currency, and that gets you a whole lot too. you said you’d like to join the EU but not the single currency, but the UK proved that situation was sorta shit for the whole EU
you can’t really be part of the single market the way it’s intended without being part of the single currency
Why not? ☺️
Because national control over the Canadian dollar gives us a lot of flexibility that adopting the Euro would take away. Particularly in a country that is about to have to attract new trading partners to buy our exports, the ability to devalue our dollar to make those exports more attractive is going to be important.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Surely putting tariffs on about 60% of American oil imports will do wonders for their gas prices.
You’re missing the point, he’s bought the rights to all of the “I did that!” sticker manufacturers. When he skyrockets prices, he’ll make a mint on the ensuing sticker wars. I think it’s called “sticker shock” or something…
If he excludes oil from the tarrifs, we should increase the price of oil exports ourselves.
Alberta would not play nicely… Danielle Smith is a boot-licker and will do anything to please Trump.
Give them the extra profit if we have to. The rest of us are all willing to make sacrifices, sometimes it’s easier to give the baby a soother than listen to their incessant whining.
Give them an inch, and they’ll take a mile.
I would not underestimate a Trudeau with nothing to lose…
Sometimes I wonder what the alternative universe where JT inherited his dad’s spine would look like.
Damn straight, put export taxes til the US stops sending guns north of the border.
Fuck Nazis.
I hope we throw in somethingn into the retaliatory package like vehicles entering the Canadian boarder need to be zero emissions, those trying to enter with non compliant vehicles will have them seized at the boarder.
That alone should keep most riff raff out of Canada.
As funny as this is, in practice we want them coming up here to spend money.
What we’ll do, like last time, is tariff in a very targeted way, hitting specific products where consumers have easy access to alternatives. Like slapping tariffs on bourbon, for example.
I need to stock up on popcorn. The next 4 years are going to be amazing.
I’m stocking up on rice and beans and survival foods as the next great depression is about to drop. If it doesn’t? I got a decade of camp food.
There are lots of cooking methods that can help save money
You can take a lot of your food wastes and freeze it and then make broth. I save my pan drippings for roux, gravy, and sauces.
I think this spring I’m going to try planting vegetables, my brother is very into his vegetable garden and has good tips.
Also things like a bag of steel cut oats are more nutritious and filling than instant oatmeal.
I both love and hate comments like this (and say that having made more than a few of them myself). It’s great to see people sharing advice on how to cook better, do more for yourself, do more at home, etc. I really enjoy making my own pickles, baking bread, making home made stock from scraps.
On the other hand, it disgusts me that comments like this are necessary. It’s the twenty first century, humanity has built flying machines, travelled into space and harnessed the power of the atom, and we’re out here sharing basic survival advice with each in the hopes of making it through one more day. Shouldn’t our basic standard of living be better than that of hunter-gatherers by now?
Absolutely agree with you there.
My mom learned this cooking from her mom growing up in the depression. She would not throw out anything and always kept a stacked cellar of very old canned foods she had collected over the years.
I cook this way to connect back to my roots and it makes me happy, it’s what I ate as a kid. That we are in a place where food banks are at all time high demand and this advice is needed is sad.
Even the great depression was, itself, an entirely artificial crisis.
I’m not saying that it occurred artificially; the causes were all real, and happened naturally.
But if you consider for even a moment the idea that a stock market crash leads to widespread starvation, it doesn’t make the slightest bit of sense.
Times of hardship used to be caused by things like droughts or harsh winters; stuff that actually impacted our ability to support ourselves in a physical way.
But how does someone’s investments failing prevent a farm from growing food? Does crop fertility track with the Dow-Jones? Does soil become less tillable because the FTSE is down?
The idea that people should starve, in a world that has no less ability to produce crops than it did yesterday, just because there is suddenly less money moving around, is absolute lunacy. In a sensible world, we’d think less about money and more about resources. Resources do not depend on the stock market. Resources do not become more scarce because a bunch of people made bad bets on the housing market.
No one should starve in a world with the capacity to feed everyone. And we have more than the capacity to feed everyone.
Iirc, there was also a majorly catastrophic weather event ripping through the majority of prime farmland around the start of the Great Depression that caused tons and tons of crops to fail as a result, which would’ve made access to food scarce and likely more expensive.
I believe it was The great dust bowl that happened around 1934/1935, but I’d have to double check
OK, that’s fair. I’d forgotten about that particular detail. More fool me. But it’s notable that no such catastrophe existed in 2008, and no such catastrophe exists today, and yet we’re still struggling to put food on plates despite more than enough food existing for everyone.
The steel cut oats also taste better, imo. :)
I can’t, Orville Redenbacher is made in USA