Huh. That’s higher than I would’ve guessed. I’ve gone ovo-lacto vegetarian myself, not strictly but habitually. It’s pretty good. Disappointed to learn that it will not mean that I live for three hundred years.
I’m so glad people are finally catching up to this. When I stopped eating meat 25ish years ago it was sometimes difficult to find a meal at a restaurant. And if they did have one, they had one.
I’m not trying to be a downer here, but a lot of those recipes are just “use dairy-free milk/yogurt/butter” instead of the dairy version. There’s nothing inherently vegan about those recipes.
Imo, the non dairy versions are all worse than the dairy versions, and some (like vegan butter) are actually less healthy than the dairy version. Much like how beyond meat isn’t healthier (or cheaper) than beef (though is much better to the planet), dairy free alternatives just aren’t all that great.
Over the last year, I’ve worked my way to about 50% of my meals being vegetarian or vegan (mostly vegetarian), but I’m largely unimpressed by vegan/vegetarian recipes that rely on 1:1 replacements for non-vegan products.
There’s more than one reason to go vegan. It’s still better environmentally, for animal welfare, etc. If people need substitutes to make the transition, that’s ok. You say you don’t, that’s ok, too. Do what works for you and let others do the same.
That’s fair, but at least personally, I was initially turned off of switching to vegetarianism/veganism due to sites and recipes such as the linked one. It took another decade before I tried it again. It doesn’t create a great first impression when your exposure to vegetarian and vegan cuisine consists of the same recipes you already make, but using “non-dairy milk” and “plant-based meat”.
There are actually a lot of great vegetarian recipes that aren’t just meat-based recipes in disguise, substituting meat/tofu/mushrooms for the meat. Fewer vegan ones, but they do exist. The best ones I’ve found come from cultures that are largely vegetarian or have large vegetarian sub-cultures (e.g. Indian or Ethiopian dishes).
Being allergic to many many vegetal protein source makes it hard to get good vegan meals.
Sesame seeds and tahini is used as seasoning in all the good Eastern meals i know, and nuts/peanuts consist of most of the “long lasting” snacks i know of.
Focusing on the limited remaining vegan proteins makes for a very homogeneous diet that turns out is bad for the gut biome.
I’ll support anyone who wants to eat vegan, but I won’t do it myself… I do reduce meat as much as my health allows.
@lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca expressed an opinion and I have the same opinion. The authors should focus the article on quality of life; longevity is secondary. Are you telling people what personal preferences to have?
If you’re talking about Aqua’s comment I’m only seeing it right now. (Look for yourself at who’s replying to who.)
You do not have to have animal products to have great food. There no reduction in quality of life. That’s not mention the horrible quality of life of the animals abused and slaughtered for your selfish wants.
The study, published last year in Nature Food, found that replacing half their red and processed meat would increase people’s life expectancy an average of nine months
That is only about 1% of the average live expactancy which is less than I thought.
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Huh. That’s higher than I would’ve guessed. I’ve gone ovo-lacto vegetarian myself, not strictly but habitually. It’s pretty good. Disappointed to learn that it will not mean that I live for three hundred years.
I’m so glad people are finally catching up to this. When I stopped eating meat 25ish years ago it was sometimes difficult to find a meal at a restaurant. And if they did have one, they had one.
Living longer is not the flex I care about. Focus on quality of life and better health.
Eating plant-based wont affect your quality of life as there are many great recipes for you to try out.
There’s scientific evidence that shows eating plant-based decrease your risk for chronic diseases. So its not just living 6-10 years longer.
I’m not trying to be a downer here, but a lot of those recipes are just “use dairy-free milk/yogurt/butter” instead of the dairy version. There’s nothing inherently vegan about those recipes.
Imo, the non dairy versions are all worse than the dairy versions, and some (like vegan butter) are actually less healthy than the dairy version. Much like how beyond meat isn’t healthier (or cheaper) than beef (though is much better to the planet), dairy free alternatives just aren’t all that great.
Over the last year, I’ve worked my way to about 50% of my meals being vegetarian or vegan (mostly vegetarian), but I’m largely unimpressed by vegan/vegetarian recipes that rely on 1:1 replacements for non-vegan products.
There’s more than one reason to go vegan. It’s still better environmentally, for animal welfare, etc. If people need substitutes to make the transition, that’s ok. You say you don’t, that’s ok, too. Do what works for you and let others do the same.
That’s fair, but at least personally, I was initially turned off of switching to vegetarianism/veganism due to sites and recipes such as the linked one. It took another decade before I tried it again. It doesn’t create a great first impression when your exposure to vegetarian and vegan cuisine consists of the same recipes you already make, but using “non-dairy milk” and “plant-based meat”.
There are actually a lot of great vegetarian recipes that aren’t just meat-based recipes in disguise, substituting meat/tofu/mushrooms for the meat. Fewer vegan ones, but they do exist. The best ones I’ve found come from cultures that are largely vegetarian or have large vegetarian sub-cultures (e.g. Indian or Ethiopian dishes).
Ethiopian and Indian are absolutely fabulous and are so much more interesting than fake chicken nuggets.
Being allergic to many many vegetal protein source makes it hard to get good vegan meals.
Sesame seeds and tahini is used as seasoning in all the good Eastern meals i know, and nuts/peanuts consist of most of the “long lasting” snacks i know of.
Focusing on the limited remaining vegan proteins makes for a very homogeneous diet that turns out is bad for the gut biome.
I’ll support anyone who wants to eat vegan, but I won’t do it myself… I do reduce meat as much as my health allows.
So… Still a plant-based diet.
Exactly what I was thinking.
The comment above is not accurate at all.
@lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca expressed an opinion and I have the same opinion. The authors should focus the article on quality of life; longevity is secondary. Are you telling people what personal preferences to have?
If you’re talking about Aqua’s comment I’m only seeing it right now. (Look for yourself at who’s replying to who.)
You do not have to have animal products to have great food. There no reduction in quality of life. That’s not mention the horrible quality of life of the animals abused and slaughtered for your selfish wants.
You’re making a lot of unnecessary assumptions. No one said anything supporting eating meat.
I suspect living longer implies higher quality.
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That is only about 1% of the average live expactancy which is less than I thought.
That title is ideological indoctrination pushing fanaticism.