I tell kids these days they are totally in one of those YAF novels where the teachers and ministers and testers (and even parents) are all in on the plot to force you through a doughboy program that turns you into an interchangeable, disposable, replaceable soldier or laborer to be exploited and discarded in some billionaire’s vanity project, all the while the world is covered in plastic residue and is liberally burning.
IP maximalist indoctrination feels entirely on par, especially considering how disengagement is a far greater threat to media industries than piracy.
Incidentally, IP infringement, including copyright infringement is never theft. Cheating creators and developers of a fair share of the profits, however, is theft.
Well, let’s see… At my school, smoking was bad. I started smoking. My school taught us that drinking alcohol was very bad. I started drinking with my friends. We learned at school that the USSR was going to attack us with nukes at any moment. So I started doing an annoying impersonation of Boris and Natascha every time we had a “hide under your desk drill” that was quite entertaining. We were warned in social studies class about the dangers of using fireworks and cherry bombs. My friends and I were on the constant hunt of old cherry bombs. Ronald Reagan’s administration started a physical fitness program that gave awards to kids that passed a certain test in gym glass. A lot of us didn’t try hard on purpose because it looked silly and many of us, to our shock, still won the award because it was too easy. So, perhaps the schools are creating a whole new generation of super pirates. Some of those kids probably don’t even know what pirating is. They’ll find out now. And don’t forget, boys and girls, ketchup is a vegetable. If ketchup is a vegetable, relish is, too. So make sure you eat up all your relish we give you at lunch time, with some ketchup on top.
I think that when they define “thief” as someone who will watch a TV show on Dailymotion when there’s no other way to get it, they’re going to be surprised how many people (especially schoolkids) are willing to say “Yes, I’m a thief.”
The record and movie industry must be paying out of their asses to have this shit taught in schools.
Let’s teach our kids the importance of making billionaires richer and not actual important stuff like checking facts or making a well informed decision when voting.
McGruffy the Anti-Piracy Crime dog asks you a question, “You wouldn’t download a car, would you?”.
This will turn out just as well as the DARE program did, it will only inspire kids into researching more about pirating. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
The last sentence suggests that, in some cases, pirates can get content sooner than their paying counterparts. This availability issue is often seen as a main driver of piracy. While improvements can be made on the supply side, the course urges teens to postpone their needs instead.
Really? Who would’ve guessed that piracy is a service problem? How about you improve your shit so people don’t feel inclined to pirate it. Who’s gonna pay for a shittier experience?
“In the real world, we learn to control desire, postpone needs, and resist temptation. This lesson also applies to the digital world. Stealing is wrong and punishable,” it adds.
Yeah these chumps are total tools that’ll just boost piracy even more. How do you fail this hard at talking to kids? If you tell a teen to “postpone needs,” you don’t deserve to be around teens.
“In the real world, we learn to control desire, postpone needs, and resist temptation. This lesson also applies to the digital world. Stealing is wrong and punishable,”
“None of this, of course, need apply to the ruling class, who lives entirely to sprint ever faster on the hedonic treadmill, demand the planet burn faster for profit, and indulge every possible temptation no matter how cruel or inhuman.”
I would love to see what actual academics in this field have to say about course material for children that equates copyright infringement with theft. I imagine it wouldn’t be good.
Having a few comments on record about this issue might help steer schools away from adopting it.
Yeah this is a definition of “theft” that doesn’t really work at all with the commonly used one.
Like, if you download a torrent, it was uploaded by someone else, willingly. If they bought a DVD and handed it to a friend, that friend wouldn’t be stealing the DVD. But now, if they upload the file to the internet for other people to watch, this class is calling that theft.
Its the kind of “theft” that leaves no victims. The alleged “victim” isn’t the person from whom the content was downloaded, no, it’s the third party who originally sold that person the product in the first place.
The whole concept isn’t logically consistent, but the corporations wrote the laws and get to decide how they are enforced and what they mean so it doesn’t matter that the law makes no sense and is punishing people for “crimes” that are, at their very core, victimless.
It’s targeted at teenagers; you can bet that these little contrarian assholes will fire up a torrent client right after the first lesson. And what’s more, they’ll even educate them on malwares! Big win for piracy in Denmark 🤓
In the U.S. circa 2016, so many kids were just finding pirate streaming sites for movies and such during class on school computers. I imagine it’s similar elsewhere for students who’ve finished their work and are bored, but boy, now they have the knowledge of how to get countless other types of media for free.
Piracy is a service problem. The goal shouldn’t be to indoctrinate our youth to avoid it, it should be to stop releasing subpar, overpriced products.
I want gonna pirate but now that this class has shown me how shotedoa companies are, and well, now that it has given me all these ideas.on how to do this, Thanks! Ill be a pirate too!
So you mean there are all these movies, media, software that I can get for free, when I’m too broke to purchase it or subscribe to it and my parents wont buy it?
It’s like DARE, only that the drugs are actually free this time.
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I tell kids these days they are totally in one of those YAF novels where the teachers and ministers and testers (and even parents) are all in on the plot to force you through a doughboy program that turns you into an interchangeable, disposable, replaceable soldier or laborer to be exploited and discarded in some billionaire’s vanity project, all the while the world is covered in plastic residue and is liberally burning.
IP maximalist indoctrination feels entirely on par, especially considering how disengagement is a far greater threat to media industries than piracy.
Incidentally, IP infringement, including copyright infringement is never theft. Cheating creators and developers of a fair share of the profits, however, is theft.
Well, let’s see… At my school, smoking was bad. I started smoking. My school taught us that drinking alcohol was very bad. I started drinking with my friends. We learned at school that the USSR was going to attack us with nukes at any moment. So I started doing an annoying impersonation of Boris and Natascha every time we had a “hide under your desk drill” that was quite entertaining. We were warned in social studies class about the dangers of using fireworks and cherry bombs. My friends and I were on the constant hunt of old cherry bombs. Ronald Reagan’s administration started a physical fitness program that gave awards to kids that passed a certain test in gym glass. A lot of us didn’t try hard on purpose because it looked silly and many of us, to our shock, still won the award because it was too easy. So, perhaps the schools are creating a whole new generation of super pirates. Some of those kids probably don’t even know what pirating is. They’ll find out now. And don’t forget, boys and girls, ketchup is a vegetable. If ketchup is a vegetable, relish is, too. So make sure you eat up all your relish we give you at lunch time, with some ketchup on top.
“Smoking is bad, m’kay? You shouldn’t smoke. And alcohol…well, drinking alcohol is very bad, m’kay?”
“You can do it, it’s all up to you” LOL
I hope the discussions immediately turn to better questions like “what does it mean to own an idea or a blueprint or a sound.”
I think that when they define “thief” as someone who will watch a TV show on Dailymotion when there’s no other way to get it, they’re going to be surprised how many people (especially schoolkids) are willing to say “Yes, I’m a thief.”
Perhaps there’s a danger that, by normalising self-identification as a thief, campaigns like this might have unanticipated societal results.
I’d hate to see shoplifting/burglary/mugging stats climbing in a few years time.
The record and movie industry must be paying out of their asses to have this shit taught in schools.
Let’s teach our kids the importance of making billionaires richer and not actual important stuff like checking facts or making a well informed decision when voting.
Absolute dystopian bullshit.
McGruffy the Anti-Piracy Crime dog asks you a question, “You wouldn’t download a car, would you?”.
This will turn out just as well as the DARE program did, it will only inspire kids into researching more about pirating. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
Shhh let boomers do another one
We can teach them about how once-upon-a-time common sense copyright laws got perverted by the mouse so badly.
Really? Who would’ve guessed that piracy is a service problem? How about you improve your shit so people don’t feel inclined to pirate it. Who’s gonna pay for a shittier experience?
Yeah these chumps are total tools that’ll just boost piracy even more. How do you fail this hard at talking to kids? If you tell a teen to “postpone needs,” you don’t deserve to be around teens.
I definitely resolved to try LSD after a D.A.R.E. lecture in 5th grade
That is a reminder of the christian morals engrained in our culture and thus education system
Isn’t scandanavia mainly atheist?
The culture is still shaped by Lutheranism
Every day they stray further from Odin.
Brief reminder that most people on the planet aren’t American
So what? Catholicism and Protestantism is ingrained in big parts of europe
His use of “our culture” screams American. Sure other countries have SOME religious folk. USA is a warzone in 2023
The English speaking world shares many cultural similarities, namely Christianity
“Sharing” and being a solid 45% of voter base is totally different imo.
The USA is a theocracy. Christofascism
Most of the governments on Earth (including all Scandinavian countries) are puppet states dominated by the USA.
Next up: adblockers make baby Jesus cry
“None of this, of course, need apply to the ruling class, who lives entirely to sprint ever faster on the hedonic treadmill, demand the planet burn faster for profit, and indulge every possible temptation no matter how cruel or inhuman.”
This just shows they can’t win so they have to resort to brainwashing children.
I mean they’d already told us it’s like stealing a car, I thought we’d accepted that and moved on (with all our free cars).
I would love to see what actual academics in this field have to say about course material for children that equates copyright infringement with theft. I imagine it wouldn’t be good.
Having a few comments on record about this issue might help steer schools away from adopting it.
Plus by “theft” they mean not paying a subscription to use what you already bought.
Yeah this is a definition of “theft” that doesn’t really work at all with the commonly used one.
Like, if you download a torrent, it was uploaded by someone else, willingly. If they bought a DVD and handed it to a friend, that friend wouldn’t be stealing the DVD. But now, if they upload the file to the internet for other people to watch, this class is calling that theft.
Its the kind of “theft” that leaves no victims. The alleged “victim” isn’t the person from whom the content was downloaded, no, it’s the third party who originally sold that person the product in the first place.
The whole concept isn’t logically consistent, but the corporations wrote the laws and get to decide how they are enforced and what they mean so it doesn’t matter that the law makes no sense and is punishing people for “crimes” that are, at their very core, victimless.
It’s targeted at teenagers; you can bet that these little contrarian assholes will fire up a torrent client right after the first lesson. And what’s more, they’ll even educate them on malwares! Big win for piracy in Denmark 🤓
I don’t know why I worry. Kids are practically immune to bullshit. It’s always adults who repeat their crooked leaders’ lies.
Kids naturally wants to know about things, they will question everything.
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Tide pod challenge
You could argue that the point is proved with this. Kids are not listening to adults’ advice. Kids just suck at listening in general.
Touché. That was some weapons-grade bullshit right there.
In the U.S. circa 2016, so many kids were just finding pirate streaming sites for movies and such during class on school computers. I imagine it’s similar elsewhere for students who’ve finished their work and are bored, but boy, now they have the knowledge of how to get countless other types of media for free.
Piracy is a service problem. The goal shouldn’t be to indoctrinate our youth to avoid it, it should be to stop releasing subpar, overpriced products.
I want gonna pirate but now that this class has shown me how shotedoa companies are, and well, now that it has given me all these ideas.on how to do this, Thanks! Ill be a pirate too!
So you mean there are all these movies, media, software that I can get for free, when I’m too broke to purchase it or subscribe to it and my parents wont buy it?
It’s like DARE, only that the drugs are actually free this time.
Its takes Time to Pirate but in todays time 1 Hour Work for Cracked Version of a Subscribtion based Programm is financially viable.
Software is to overpriced if they have a Monopoly in professional space.
but you wouldn’t download a car
Hell yeah, I would! I still think this is such a stupid argument.
it’s less of an argument more of an meme. I literally found that commercial due to a meme. XD. Internet is so fun.