As always, the paying user has the worst experience. “Purchase” a show, can only watch on a certain console of a certain brand, no transfers, no backups, then it suddenly disappears from the library and nothing can be done.
If media companies insist on draconian DRM, then they should pay for full refunds to their loyal customers when one day they decide to delist that specific show.
This won’t change until someone sells a yacht to a Senator with fine print that it’s only a perpetual license. Then comes back 3 years later and takes the yacht citing the fine print in the contract.
Alright, what this looks like is Sony’s deal with Discovery to sell and host their TV shows has been removed. From my quick glance there are no games being removed.
Still is BS, and beyond ridiculous. But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.
I am more pissed that I got informed that they are doing this from here instead of being told that I am losing my Myth Busters.
Because it was 2009, I was I kid, and I saw Mythbusters and I said yes. I learnt my lesson when they remove PlayStation Video years ago from PS3, and the PSP. I didn’t even know I could re-download it until I stumbled upon it in a menu years later.
I am just hoping and praying that this will not extend to their games. Sony’s been pretty good about game ownership to this point, look at those who bought the PT Demo and can still play it.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sony kind of has their hands tied on this one. The shows they’re delisting (or are not able to relicense) kind of get to take their IP off of the system, no?
If they didn’t have a licence to host it in perpetuity, they shouldn’t have sold it in the first place.
Yes, they should pull it if they legally have to. That’s following the law. However, they should refund consumers in full or ensure that they continue to have the media without restrictions.
On the one hand, I sympathize with anyone losing access to How It’s Made and Mythbusters. But for everything else on that list, that money was already thrown away for no good reason. I’d like to hope the audiences were small or non-existent to begin with.
Sony is doing the world a favor by purging most of that garbage from their service, to be perfectly honest.
Scrolling through the list I can’t believe that people actually watch that shit, let alone pay for it.
It’s all the kind of crap that people leave used to leave on in the background and to get bombarded with 4 sets of adverts an hour. The direct result of needing to fill 200 channels as cheaply as possible.
Refunding everyone would probably cost Sony less than a million. I’d wager some of those shows nobody has ever purchased.
You don’t like it which is fine but no need to call out people who do. My dad loves deadliest catch and has been watching it for years, he records it and then fast forwards through the ad breaks something that’s been around 10 years now.
Did anyone actually read the link? Everyone in the thread is talking like they pulled video games. They literally only pulled Disney TV content from like 20 years ago. Now of course that’s still crappy but stuff like this has happened for TV content before and it won’t be the last time this happens.
We can freak out when they actually do this to video games and not some 20 year old awful reality TV content no one watched anyway.
The point is if they do it for this there is no reason they wouldn’t do it to other forms of media. Youre either introducing a strawman argument or missing the point
Not within Lemmy, but if you were on, for example, a federated Mastodon instance it’s perfectly possible to boost that comment that would appear like a retweet to Mastodon users.
you can technically follow lemmy users in mastodon. in megalodon (or whatever your client is), just search for the lemmy handle. their posts are toots and their comments are replies
The Voyager community (I use it too), JUST had a post from the developer that he added a feature to post comments as pictures, but I don’t actually know how to do it.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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If I purchased it, do I get store credit for losing what I bought?
That’s funny. You should do stand-up
lol
Yes, but since it’s “used”, you get .1 percent what you paid for it.
It loses 70% of it’s value as soon as you
drivewatch it off the lotThis won’t change until someone sells a yacht to a Senator with fine print that it’s only a perpetual license. Then comes back 3 years later and takes the yacht citing the fine print in the contract.
Alright, what this looks like is Sony’s deal with Discovery to sell and host their TV shows has been removed. From my quick glance there are no games being removed.
Still is BS, and beyond ridiculous. But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.
I am more pissed that I got informed that they are doing this from here instead of being told that I am losing my Myth Busters.
If you believed this, wtf would you ever give them your money to begin with???
Because it was 2009, I was I kid, and I saw Mythbusters and I said yes. I learnt my lesson when they remove PlayStation Video years ago from PS3, and the PSP. I didn’t even know I could re-download it until I stumbled upon it in a menu years later.
I am just hoping and praying that this will not extend to their games. Sony’s been pretty good about game ownership to this point, look at those who bought the PT Demo and can still play it.
Ok fair enough.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sony kind of has their hands tied on this one. The shows they’re delisting (or are not able to relicense) kind of get to take their IP off of the system, no?
If they didn’t have a licence to host it in perpetuity, they shouldn’t have sold it in the first place.
Yes, they should pull it if they legally have to. That’s following the law. However, they should refund consumers in full or ensure that they continue to have the media without restrictions.
More than refund should be legally due. The cost to repurchase the product is what is due.
nothing is legally due, Sony more than likely has clauses in their ToS that say they can remove access to content for whatever reason.
Morally fucked up, but legally fine.
Everything was once “legally fine” until a court ruled otherwise.
Shrinkwrap licenses were once “legally fine”.
I imagine that is the case, however they could refund it given the situation.
I get the feeling they won’t allow refunds.
True, but I doubt any giant corp entity would do refunds in this day and age.
Not defending Sony, just saying this is SOP, as shitty as it is.
“But you only ever owned a usage-license, which we now suspended” strawman argument incoming.
Well duh, then i don’t have “buyed” but rented it. Usage of those terms by platforms should be sued as misleading.
I look forward to the class action suit, and the $14 check I’ll get in the mail.
On the one hand, I sympathize with anyone losing access to How It’s Made and Mythbusters. But for everything else on that list, that money was already thrown away for no good reason. I’d like to hope the audiences were small or non-existent to begin with.
Sony is doing the world a favor by purging most of that garbage from their service, to be perfectly honest.
Now THAT is stealing.
Cool tattoo idea!
That list of shows that’s being removed is huge too.
God I hope people reconsider purchasing products from companies that do these kind of things to them.
At some point you think if they get smacked up the side of their heads enough times that they will actually wake up and do something about it.
Scrolling through the list I can’t believe that people actually watch that shit, let alone pay for it.
It’s all the kind of crap that people leave used to leave on in the background and to get bombarded with 4 sets of adverts an hour. The direct result of needing to fill 200 channels as cheaply as possible.
Refunding everyone would probably cost Sony less than a million. I’d wager some of those shows nobody has ever purchased.
You don’t like it which is fine but no need to call out people who do. My dad loves deadliest catch and has been watching it for years, he records it and then fast forwards through the ad breaks something that’s been around 10 years now.
Deadly Dentists didn’t get good until season 2 anyway.
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Did anyone actually read the link? Everyone in the thread is talking like they pulled video games. They literally only pulled Disney TV content from like 20 years ago. Now of course that’s still crappy but stuff like this has happened for TV content before and it won’t be the last time this happens.
We can freak out when they actually do this to video games and not some 20 year old awful reality TV content no one watched anyway.
The point is if they do it for this there is no reason they wouldn’t do it to other forms of media. Youre either introducing a strawman argument or missing the point
Nobody is mentioning TV Show vs video game because there is no difference.
Taking away any content a user has paid for is unacceptable without a full refund at absolute minimum.
if buying isn’t owning piracy isn’t stealing
I wish u could retweet a lemmy comment. Well said.
technically you can since lemmy, kbin, and mastodon all use activitypub :P
How tho. I use the Voyager app for Lemmy (iOS)
Not within Lemmy, but if you were on, for example, a federated Mastodon instance it’s perfectly possible to boost that comment that would appear like a retweet to Mastodon users.
you can technically follow lemmy users in mastodon. in megalodon (or whatever your client is), just search for the lemmy handle. their posts are toots and their comments are replies
Mind = blown, I didn’t know Lemmy could talk to mastadon
The Voyager community (I use it too), JUST had a post from the developer that he added a feature to post comments as pictures, but I don’t actually know how to do it.
Niiiice, thank you!
You can on /kbin
welcome to the fediverse. Boost = retweet ;)
Fairer words have never been spoken
That’s 1318 items, according to that table, counting by seasons. Insane.