Turns out when you trap people in a hellhole, they start to resent the people who put them there, and laud the people who seem to be trying to change that shitty status quo.

Who’da thought?

Turns out when you trap people in a hellhole, they start to resent the people who put them there, and laud the people who seem to be trying to change that shitty status quo.

Given that Hamas is one of the key reasons why this place is a hellhole, these words don’t explain why the support for Hamas is allegedly raising.

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Israel’s claim that Hamas resisting the violence and oppression of Palestinians by Israel makes Hamas responsible for said violence and oppression of Palestinians by Israel, doesn’t ring true to anyone objective, much less the Palestinians whose families and friends are dying to Israeli bombs.

these words don’t explain why the support for Hamas is allegedly raising

Israel: “I’m the one killing your loved ones for decades, but really you should blame this other guy (Hamas) for giving me the excuse to do it!”

Yeah, I’m sure you’d totally buy that argument too.

Israel propped up Hamas very actively, in order to delegitimize the PA and prevent a 2-state solution, thinking that they could oppress Palestinians far worse with them under a labeled terrorist leadership, but then they act all surprised pikachu when said terrorist group does the terrorism.

Netanyahu gambled with both Palestinians lives and Israeli ones, and lost that bet badly, so now he’s looking to capitalize on the situation to ethnically cleanse Gaza and set up new settlements there, hoping that will be enough to save himself from the political reckoning coming for him internally.

According to the Palestinians, Israel is the cause and Hamas is the response to that.

The history of that area is… horrific, sadly.

Yeah, when you bomb someone indiscriminately, you end up trapped in a hellhole.

So Israel is a hell hole?

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I’m sure you thought this was some kinda clever gotcha, but to everyone who is not deep in Israel’s kool-aid, we all can see very well with our own eyes which place has been systematically, indiscriminately bombed, and it ain’t Israel.

Propaganda and ignorance of history is a hell of a drug. Some people even act like Palestine has no history before Oct 7, 2023. It’s unbelievable.

we all can see very well with our own eyes

One side literally has no military while the other has a high tech military and even an arms industry worth billions. The only way Israel can achieve it’s goal of taking over Palestine is if people can not see very well with their own eyes, and that’s where the kool-aid comes in.

They ended up trapped in that hellhole because the majority of them or their families were victims of the ethnic cleansing that created Israel.

Creating desperate people is not good for anyone.

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This should remove any doubt whether Palestinians are aligned with Hamas. They are not that innocent.

Oh I’m sure you would have warm, fuzzy feelings if your government decimated your city and you had no agency to leave. Lack of clean water, food, and medical aid amidst ongoing death and destruction would only endear them to you further, but of course!

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They could have used the several hundreds of millions of eurodollars of donations on building those things instead of building weapons of war. But they chose not to. There’s no reason to feel sympathy for somebody who destroys their own opportunities like that.

Palestinians did spend the supplies they received on civil projects, but Israel (and Netanyahu in particular) has been getting a lot of that money sent to Hamas in order to prevent the Palestinian National Authority from gaining support in Gaza.

So don’t blame Palestinians, who have no say in how that aid gets distributed, blame Hamas and it’s backers like Israel.

Which of the dead kids were responsible for building weapons?

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Children don’t generally take responsibility of anything: adults do.

So why does Israel keep putting them in prison and kill them en masse

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“We oppressed (and bombed) you until you hated us, and now that you hate us we will use your hate of us to claim you are the bad ones.”

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Your comment suggests that you are completely immoral and thoroughly evil. Please stop talking to me as long as those two things are true.

Our only rule here is to be(e) nice. Your name-calling is NOT nice. Please, remember this in the future when using Beehaw.

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