Keep in mind data recovery vs drive size. Getting past ~16TB drives, it starts to become a question of whether the rest would be able to survive a restore of a failed drive if any are going to have remotely similar endurance. Obviously, the answer is going to be “yes” most of the time, but at a certain point, there are deminishing returns on the cost of the drives to where even a one to one price increase in the HDD per size might not be worth it all the same.
Kinda’ a moot point if you’re not going to raid them in any way for reliability, but worth a thought.
I’ve described this terribly, but Level1tech on YT talks about it sometimes in reviews.
This is me when I’m trying to be helpful after a full day of coding and my 2nd dose of Adderall has worn off. props for still telling him a brief overview along with where to find the info
There’s nothing wrong with it at all. That’s why I gave them props for still giving all necessary info because search engines are a shitshow for things now. They just seemed like they were mentally drained but still trying to help I thought that was cool. Also possibly/probably projection on my part.
I was mainly basing it off of the quick rundown no unnecessary info and them saying that they described it terribly. I was just relating to it yesterday after I got off work and was drained.
I work at an IT company and we regularly supply hardware to clients. So I got these at B2B retail prices. My boss basically just handed me the bill the supplier issued to the company and said “you pay it”.
Serverpartsdeals on eBay. I think that’s their name. Pretty sure they only ship to USA though. At least that’s what non-Americans on my favorite tracker always complains about.
It’s okay, dear! Just breathe! You’ll be fine! Maybe there is some porn you’d like to watch among your data hoard? Violently masturbating might bring you down again, honey!
Probably personal archive of games/movies/porn and backups, I’d do this if i got this honestly, and i think most of us would do the same, slap some block based deduplication and zstd compression and enjoy
for snuggling it’s not the being on the ship that’s the hard part, it’s what happens at the port before it’s loaded and after at the port it’s unloading at.
Same except 4 of them. I ended up buying from serverpartsdeals though. recertified for $210 each. Had a small hiccup on my first batch but they came in quick and made it right. Now all my useless data has a home
I use a 1tb ssd for the os/apps with my raid5 strictly for storage. Kinda nice if the os needs to be reinstalled or I want to migrate the raid cluster.
That’s also a good option but I wouldn’t with 6 drivers personally. I have a 12 bay array with two pools of 6 each running raidz2. I’ve run raid 5 for a long time but have had one drive fail many times and always have mini heart attacks while I wait for the new drive to come in and the rebuild process to happen.
I do this for expansion. I can expand the pool three drives at a time instead of 6. But, I set it up knowing the risk with a single parity drive…and I’ve acounted for that with backups. 👍
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Keep in mind data recovery vs drive size. Getting past ~16TB drives, it starts to become a question of whether the rest would be able to survive a restore of a failed drive if any are going to have remotely similar endurance. Obviously, the answer is going to be “yes” most of the time, but at a certain point, there are deminishing returns on the cost of the drives to where even a one to one price increase in the HDD per size might not be worth it all the same.
Kinda’ a moot point if you’re not going to raid them in any way for reliability, but worth a thought.
I’ve described this terribly, but Level1tech on YT talks about it sometimes in reviews.
Rebuild time? Yeah it’ll take about that long.
This is me when I’m trying to be helpful after a full day of coding and my 2nd dose of Adderall has worn off. props for still telling him a brief overview along with where to find the info
What’s wrong with their comment? Straight to the point, no unnecessary info.
There’s nothing wrong with it at all. That’s why I gave them props for still giving all necessary info because search engines are a shitshow for things now. They just seemed like they were mentally drained but still trying to help I thought that was cool. Also possibly/probably projection on my part.
I was mainly basing it off of the quick rundown no unnecessary info and them saying that they described it terribly. I was just relating to it yesterday after I got off work and was drained.
Hopefully you’re filled now, I am! As a fellow developer, I totally got your comment.
I am once again full, friend! I’ll never think about ‘feeling drained’ the same again 😅
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So…anywhere to get a bulk deal on these, preferably in a pack of 6?
I work at an IT company and we regularly supply hardware to clients. So I got these at B2B retail prices. My boss basically just handed me the bill the supplier issued to the company and said “you pay it”.
I’ll give you tree fiddy.
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Around 280€.
Serverpartsdeals on eBay. I think that’s their name. Pretty sure they only ship to USA though. At least that’s what non-Americans on my favorite tracker always complains about.
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Sooo… Are you actually using the data that’s going on these or is this more of a hoarding situation?
What does “using” mean? It’s definitly a hoarding situation. I mostly store TV shows and movies. But I only watch a tiny fraction of them.
It’s not hoarding … I’m actually archiving. Or something you tell yourself. Shut up, I don’t need a reason. I don’t have a Problem, leave me alone.
This guy archives
It’s okay, dear! Just breathe! You’ll be fine! Maybe there is some porn you’d like to watch among your data hoard? Violently masturbating might bring you down again, honey!
The archive must grow
You’re among friends here.
The meeting is on Tuesday nights at 5.
Oh it’s not DA… (data anonymous) it’s the local sneakerNet for doing old school swaps.
Being a snack!
Yes.
Probably personal archive of games/movies/porn and backups, I’d do this if i got this honestly, and i think most of us would do the same, slap some block based deduplication and zstd compression and enjoy
So you mean like literal piracy, you heisted them?
Yes, it was a chinese container ship. Resistance would have been futile.
The guys making $32 a day on Chinese ships don’t get paid enough to care, that’s why it’s so easy to smuggle stuff to begin with.
for snuggling it’s not the being on the ship that’s the hard part, it’s what happens at the port before it’s loaded and after at the port it’s unloading at.
I want to snuggle too
fsck it, I’m keeping it. It makes sense with the typo and without, just giving fully different meaning to the sentence 😅
There are oem drives out there which don’t have the 5year warranty. I would check the drives serial numbers at the seagate homepage.
I kinda expected nsfw ai generated pic of Santa …
Lol me too. The 2020’s have clearly damaged us.
Are these hard drives or the beefiest SSDs I’ve ever seen?
I don’t think 20TB SSDs exist, and if they do I probably couldn’t afford one in a few hundred years.
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Just gonna leave this here
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12541/unlimited-5-year-endurance-100-tb-ssd
For the person who just can’t part with anything…
That was nearly 6 years ago!
16 grand for the 64TB. The 100 just says “special order” for the price.
They do kioxia makes them https://smicro.eu/kioxia-cm6-30-72tb-nvme-pcie4x4-2-5-u-3-15mmsie-1dwpd-kcm6xrul30t7-1
30tb SSD
€4200 with tax (give or take)
😭 when you realise your dreams exceed your budget
You’d be surprised. I think the prices will drop dramatically after the first hundred.
!remindme 100y
I just got 2 of these (x22 version) for my Jellyfin. Supposed to be here tomorrow! I don’t think I could drop $1k for that many.
If I could actually get those for 1000$ I would do that. Just spent 260€ for a new 16tb one…
I wish I could have … storage is apprently way cheaper in the US.
Same except 4 of them. I ended up buying from serverpartsdeals though. recertified for $210 each. Had a small hiccup on my first batch but they came in quick and made it right. Now all my useless data has a home
40tb of santa cumming? Wow
There’s 6 of them
more like 120tb. and wow indeed!
Super jealous. Half for storage and half for backup or just going all storage?
The idea is going for raid5 so that should be around 100TB of storage, minus the OS and apps, etcs. But easily 80TB+ net storage.
I use a 1tb ssd for the os/apps with my raid5 strictly for storage. Kinda nice if the os needs to be reinstalled or I want to migrate the raid cluster.
but that means you need to give up a bay slot for the system sdd, right?
In my case, I use a PCI card with an m.2 slot for my OS drive. I lose a PCI slot, but I already had a few to spare.
That would probably depend on case, motherboard, and which (if any) pcie slots are occupied.
With drives that size, you should be talking RAID6, 80TB storage and 40TB checksum.
Rebuilds will take a long time, and with RAID6 you can at least suffer 2 drives failures and continue to operate fully.
With that amount of storage I highly recommend RAID6.
I’d do a pool with 2x vdevs, each with three drives in raidz1
That’s also a good option but I wouldn’t with 6 drivers personally. I have a 12 bay array with two pools of 6 each running raidz2. I’ve run raid 5 for a long time but have had one drive fail many times and always have mini heart attacks while I wait for the new drive to come in and the rebuild process to happen.
I do this for expansion. I can expand the pool three drives at a time instead of 6. But, I set it up knowing the risk with a single parity drive…and I’ve acounted for that with backups. 👍