What’s your preferred alternative? I use DuckDuckGo, and it’s… OK. I still often switch over to Google when I’m having a hard time finding relevant results on DDG.
I think it’s a bold move for Google to present Perspectives as a new feature to improve user experience when really, it just makes it easier for them to present sponsored content in different formats. Astroturfed advertisments (fake “ordinary customer reviews,” usually) have been a thing on social media for ages, especially on YouTube, and Perspectives is just giving Google a creative way to get eyeballs on those ads.
Using the Reddit implosion as a jumping off point is also clever, and I think it’s evidence that Google doesn’t plan on paying for API access next month, or ever. They don’t want to take advantage of Reddit’s data, they just want to take back the eyeballs that Reddit attracts.
(… not that Reddit was ever immune to astroturfing, of course, but I think strong community moderation made it better than YouTube, which doesn’t give users much opportunity to get rid of fake reviews. Now that they have chased off a lot of mods and nerfed their tools, I expect the authenticity of Reddit product reviews to decrease dramatically).
“Many of you may wonder how we have a search team that’s iterating and building all this new stuff and yet somehow, users are still not quite happy,” Raghavan reportedly said.
Their search has been getting worse and worse for a long time before the Reddit protest.
“Many of us may wonder,” yep. Some of us are pretty sure it’s because Google is now optimizing searches for profitability rather than relevance. They’re very careful to avoid fully explaining how the algorithm arranges search results, but I think the algorithm now has more financial subroutines than software behind it.
Search engines have been becoming increasingly useless for years at this point as SEO gentrification runs rampant and more content moves behind walled gardens like Discord and anything that requires a subscription. Not to mention that Google enshittifies just like everything else. The amount of overly verbose garbage I have to trek through just to not get an answer to my query is far too high. God fucking help us now that AI can generate content, which will be even more garbage to sift through.
You know, that was a good article until the author took a completely unnecessary and irrelevant swipe at Biden; at which point I completely lost interest in anything the author had to say.
I’m really fucking tired of political bullshit being embedded into every-goddamned-thing I read.
Oh boo hoo. I would have bitched if it was a completely-out-of-place swipe at any politician, even ones I hate. I would have bitched just as much if it was an anti-trump joke. It was irrelevant and obnoxious, shitty, opportunistic writing.
I don’t give fuck one about Biden, but I do give fuck one about journalistic integrity, which the author seems to lack.
I can’t trust a single thing that pops up on google because everything is auto generated blog spam
And regarding reddit, moderation keeps reddit at a good quality but if reddit takes away moderators tools and introduces more instructive ads it will become low quality and untrustworthy as well
The cynic in me sees a symbiotic relationship between Google and Reddit.
I started messing around on Reddit around 2007, but it felt like a firehose. Google’s results covered what I was looking for to the extent that I didn’t need a second source for most searches, and my job involved reading the AP wire, so I was decently covered on news with additional RSS feeds at home.
Fast forward a few years, and I’m noticing the pattern that most genuinely helpful information is coming from Reddit (as well as no longer being in a newsroom), so I join, and the experience is far better with subreddits (sorry, hipsters). It wasn’t yet readily apparent that Reddit was not only getting better at being comprehensive, but Google was also getting worse.
In the late beforetimes, maybe 2019, Google became useful for searching Reddit and finding product information for items I already knew about. And nothing else. Even with coding questions, there are a lot of red herrings. Without Reddit results, I’d have noticed Google’s search irrelevance far earlier.
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Google as a search engine is more or less dead. I was only really using Google to search reddit. Now that I’m done with reddit… There goes Google.
Google removing the “do no evil” from their ethos was a very clear indication of the direction they were heading.
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“Don’t be evil” is still in Google’s Code of Conduct, it’s just been at the end of the document rather than the start since 2018.
Google did evil shit before and after the change, it’s not quite the big deal that some people make it out to be!
What’s your preferred alternative? I use DuckDuckGo, and it’s… OK. I still often switch over to Google when I’m having a hard time finding relevant results on DDG.
I think it’s a bold move for Google to present Perspectives as a new feature to improve user experience when really, it just makes it easier for them to present sponsored content in different formats. Astroturfed advertisments (fake “ordinary customer reviews,” usually) have been a thing on social media for ages, especially on YouTube, and Perspectives is just giving Google a creative way to get eyeballs on those ads.
Using the Reddit implosion as a jumping off point is also clever, and I think it’s evidence that Google doesn’t plan on paying for API access next month, or ever. They don’t want to take advantage of Reddit’s data, they just want to take back the eyeballs that Reddit attracts.
(… not that Reddit was ever immune to astroturfing, of course, but I think strong community moderation made it better than YouTube, which doesn’t give users much opportunity to get rid of fake reviews. Now that they have chased off a lot of mods and nerfed their tools, I expect the authenticity of Reddit product reviews to decrease dramatically).
Their search has been getting worse and worse for a long time before the Reddit protest.
Ironically, reddit’s search feature was also trash. If I wanted to find something on reddit I just went to google and appended “reddit”.
“Many of us may wonder,” yep. Some of us are pretty sure it’s because Google is now optimizing searches for profitability rather than relevance. They’re very careful to avoid fully explaining how the algorithm arranges search results, but I think the algorithm now has more financial subroutines than software behind it.
Search engines have been becoming increasingly useless for years at this point as SEO gentrification runs rampant and more content moves behind walled gardens like Discord and anything that requires a subscription. Not to mention that Google enshittifies just like everything else. The amount of overly verbose garbage I have to trek through just to not get an answer to my query is far too high. God fucking help us now that AI can generate content, which will be even more garbage to sift through.
You know, that was a good article until the author took a completely unnecessary and irrelevant swipe at Biden; at which point I completely lost interest in anything the author had to say.
I’m really fucking tired of political bullshit being embedded into every-goddamned-thing I read.
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Oh boo hoo. I would have bitched if it was a completely-out-of-place swipe at any politician, even ones I hate. I would have bitched just as much if it was an anti-trump joke. It was irrelevant and obnoxious, shitty, opportunistic writing.
I don’t give fuck one about Biden, but I do give fuck one about journalistic integrity, which the author seems to lack.
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I can’t trust a single thing that pops up on google because everything is auto generated blog spam
And regarding reddit, moderation keeps reddit at a good quality but if reddit takes away moderators tools and introduces more instructive ads it will become low quality and untrustworthy as well
The cynic in me sees a symbiotic relationship between Google and Reddit.
I started messing around on Reddit around 2007, but it felt like a firehose. Google’s results covered what I was looking for to the extent that I didn’t need a second source for most searches, and my job involved reading the AP wire, so I was decently covered on news with additional RSS feeds at home.
Fast forward a few years, and I’m noticing the pattern that most genuinely helpful information is coming from Reddit (as well as no longer being in a newsroom), so I join, and the experience is far better with subreddits (sorry, hipsters). It wasn’t yet readily apparent that Reddit was not only getting better at being comprehensive, but Google was also getting worse.
In the late beforetimes, maybe 2019, Google became useful for searching Reddit and finding product information for items I already knew about. And nothing else. Even with coding questions, there are a lot of red herrings. Without Reddit results, I’d have noticed Google’s search irrelevance far earlier.