I pay for Amazon Prime, but still get less buffer time by streaming torrents with Stremio, which also never fails to remember where I left a movie at (even if I change the torrent source, which is crazy)
We traded ownership (physical media) for convenience. I was a matter of time until that came biting us in the ass
PS: I love the convenience of everything being in my computer without having to lift my ass to change media, so it’s possible to have ownership AND convenience.
Piracy is the only viable option. The problem isn’t the concept of a streaming subscription service, the problem is how many of them there are. A couple would be fine I guess but if we consider the fact that all the content is divided in more than 10 major services, it’s no longer a viable option.
That happened to me before with Prime. Bought a movie, forgot about it for while then I remembered and when I went to look for it, it was gone. I checked my emails and I still had the confirmation of purchase. Maybe they thought they could remove it since I didn’t watch it right away.
I spent over $1000 on Steam in the past few years and I’m scared one day they’ll pull some games.
The first time my kid came to me crying because his favorite series was pulled off of Netflix, and I went to try to find any other legal way to get it at the time and it simply wasn’t available. It was done.
That’s not what I’m saying. Take cable tv subscriptions for example. Multiple companies offer different subscription tiers at different prices but you can get the highest tier subscription which includes all the channels.
Now imagine having to subscribe individually to each Channel, this is essentially what these streaming services are doing.
The issue with streaming companies is the exclusivity. I would happily pay for Netfix if I could watch Ted Lasso (= Apple+) and Halo (= Paramount+) on it.
But if you want access to original series you have to buy the platform. I pay around €45 total in VPNs, Seedboxes, Usenet indexers… per month. I would happily pay for Netfix if I had access to everything in the world for up to €50/month. But with netflix you get access to a shitty catalogue on only one device for €8/month… That’s not okay for me.
real Halo fans waited yeeeaaarrs for that show to come out. i mean i remember being a little kid in middle school and thinking “i can’t wait for the halo movie/show to finally come out”. Fast forward years later, and i have a house, 2 kids, I’m married and the Halo show is finally out and it’s garbage. i hate what happened to that franchise
Ugh, there has not been a TV show that has disappointed me as much recently as “Halo” has… It’s a disgrace that it is even called Halo.
The disappointing thing is there were small tidbits of S1 where I said “Hey, if there was more of this then I’d be excited to for the next episode to air!” … But no.
I like to joke and say “My disappointment is immeasurable” but this was certainly a case where I actually meant it.
I’m still only using legit services right now. For us the biggest thing we miss is the ability to actually find something specific. They work “ok” for just choosing something to watch from the algorithm, and that’s only because we got like 4 services total. But if you want to watch a specific film? 9 times out of 10 it’s not on any of them.
My game changer was going to bflix.gg and downloading the android app from there (OnStream).
Every episode of anything can be streamed! If I get problems I can download an episode str8 on my phone. I use xcast to then chromecast it directly on my tv.
Just make a Plex server. Easy. Only thing I pay for is a VPN. Can download and watch whatever I want. Build my own library. I do need to upgrade the PC though, it’s a pretty shitty box that I put it on.
Because you don’t pay for anything. You basically store on your phone and cast to tv there. On laptop the website streams. On phone itself you’re streaming.
At this point it 100% is. I could bother and use nonsense apps, and their poor players. But now that I need 5 subscriptions and it’s still like 40% chance that I find movie i want to see there it’s simply stupid. Also consistency with plex and much better quality, not to mention frequently found bonuses like deleted scenes or interviews with creators / actors.
Another thing, it’s sad to see people switching to streaming lose their interest in exploring filmography by genre, director etc and only come down to brainlessly watching any garbage recommended by netflix.
Definitely not bro. I got a server running the arr suite with download clients and have to buy HDDs to store the content and run maintenance and updates and and and and and. Don’t get me wrong, I am a nerd and love doing that, but I wouldn’t call it “convenient”.
It’s definitely the case for my wife though 🤣 she only has 2 apps, one to request content, the other to watch it.
I don’t know, you don’t have to complicate it that much really. For me buying a hard drive every few years and downloading things I, or my brothers and sisters I share Plex with, want to watch really isn’t that complex.
“Can you get X” “ok Plex is updated” is as difficult as it’s been for me.
100000000%, beyond the fact that I don’t want to pay a thousand different subscriptions, I also much prefer having everything in jellyfin or Plex. I don’t want to mess around with all these crappy streaming apps, each with their own set of limited functionality or handicaps.
Also, why would I want to watch low bitrate streams when I can get full quality Blu-ray rips. Hopefully someday streaming platforms will offer full bitrate video, as physical media will probably go away over time.
Concerns with shitty players is such a frustrating issue, too. The Paramount+ website is such hot garbage, it frustrates me anytime I try to watch anything on it.
I have discover streaming from my phone plan (I don’t pay anything for it) and it’s absolute trash. Takes forever to load, buffers constantly, quality sucks. I got fed up and went to the high seas for the same show and it was beautiful with no bs. How can you mess something up so bad? I don’t bother with discover or prime anymore, high seas for everything even though I legally have the two of them.
For me it hasnt been for along time. The site I use has everything as soon as its available, stores which episodes and at which time I was last time, has intro skip, autoplay and autonext. When i want to watch a series i just type the name in my browser, auto-complete the URL and i’m done. On netflix i have to tap through multiple menues, have to login and might even get blocked because im not on my home device. I get a better service in every aspect for free.
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As more and more people get direct fibre optic connections, this advantage will get smaller and smaller…
I pay for Amazon Prime, but still get less buffer time by streaming torrents with Stremio, which also never fails to remember where I left a movie at (even if I change the torrent source, which is crazy)
Amazon video is an absolute trash heap. Worlds behind even other streaming services.
Indeed.
We traded ownership (physical media) for convenience. I was a matter of time until that came biting us in the ass
PS: I love the convenience of everything being in my computer without having to lift my ass to change media, so it’s possible to have ownership AND convenience.
Piracy is the only viable option. The problem isn’t the concept of a streaming subscription service, the problem is how many of them there are. A couple would be fine I guess but if we consider the fact that all the content is divided in more than 10 major services, it’s no longer a viable option.
And then there’s the problem with stuff suddenly disappearing or never being there in the first place.
That happened to me before with Prime. Bought a movie, forgot about it for while then I remembered and when I went to look for it, it was gone. I checked my emails and I still had the confirmation of purchase. Maybe they thought they could remove it since I didn’t watch it right away.
I spent over $1000 on Steam in the past few years and I’m scared one day they’ll pull some games.
The first time my kid came to me crying because his favorite series was pulled off of Netflix, and I went to try to find any other legal way to get it at the time and it simply wasn’t available. It was done.
Do you really want everything centralized to a single actor, though? If Netflix had complete monopoly, that would have been catastrophic.
That’s not what I’m saying. Take cable tv subscriptions for example. Multiple companies offer different subscription tiers at different prices but you can get the highest tier subscription which includes all the channels.
Now imagine having to subscribe individually to each Channel, this is essentially what these streaming services are doing.
Another alternative is to buy only the shows/movies you watch.
Pay $100+ to get all streaming services or use my favorite site through my smart tv with adblock from my phone for free and get it all… hmmmm
The issue with streaming companies is the exclusivity. I would happily pay for Netfix if I could watch Ted Lasso (= Apple+) and Halo (= Paramount+) on it.
But if you want access to original series you have to buy the platform. I pay around €45 total in VPNs, Seedboxes, Usenet indexers… per month. I would happily pay for Netfix if I had access to everything in the world for up to €50/month. But with netflix you get access to a shitty catalogue on only one device for €8/month… That’s not okay for me.
See they’re doing you a favor by not letting you waste your time on that garbage that is the Halo show. What a farce.
real Halo fans waited yeeeaaarrs for that show to come out. i mean i remember being a little kid in middle school and thinking “i can’t wait for the halo movie/show to finally come out”. Fast forward years later, and i have a house, 2 kids, I’m married and the Halo show is finally out and it’s garbage. i hate what happened to that franchise
It’s not even worth pirating, lol
Trust me. You do not want to watch Halo.
Ugh, there has not been a TV show that has disappointed me as much recently as “Halo” has… It’s a disgrace that it is even called Halo.
The disappointing thing is there were small tidbits of S1 where I said “Hey, if there was more of this then I’d be excited to for the next episode to air!” … But no.
I like to joke and say “My disappointment is immeasurable” but this was certainly a case where I actually meant it.
I’m still only using legit services right now. For us the biggest thing we miss is the ability to actually find something specific. They work “ok” for just choosing something to watch from the algorithm, and that’s only because we got like 4 services total. But if you want to watch a specific film? 9 times out of 10 it’s not on any of them.
My game changer was going to bflix.gg and downloading the android app from there (OnStream).
Every episode of anything can be streamed! If I get problems I can download an episode str8 on my phone. I use xcast to then chromecast it directly on my tv.
For anime, I go to 9anime.
LITERALLY FREE
How does it compare to paying someone for a plex server?
Just make a Plex server. Easy. Only thing I pay for is a VPN. Can download and watch whatever I want. Build my own library. I do need to upgrade the PC though, it’s a pretty shitty box that I put it on.
Because you don’t pay for anything. You basically store on your phone and cast to tv there. On laptop the website streams. On phone itself you’re streaming.
Okay, this bflix thing is amazing. How is it legal?
It ain’t legal but all these streaming services and their greed shouldn’t be legal either
Okay, this bflix thing is amazing. How is it legal? How do they pay for it?
Their entire existence is based on the monopoly of violence throwing you in jail when you make piracy more convenient
I pay more for my personal setup each month than I would have to pay for all streaming sites combined.
Yet it’s the ease of having Arr’s and a personal server with almost zero limits to stream any content I want.
My setup includes :- Dedicated Server Usenet Indexers and Private Trackers
The only time I wouldn’t find a movie or show I want would be a really old obscure media which doesn’t seem to exist anywhere.
Everything else is grabbed from both via my Arr’s and life is chill.
I pay 0 and get everything I want streamed with 0 limits to my tv 😂 wtf why pay for all that bs💀
Because it is fun running it and and be a bit more independent.
I think piracy is more convenient
At this point it 100% is. I could bother and use nonsense apps, and their poor players. But now that I need 5 subscriptions and it’s still like 40% chance that I find movie i want to see there it’s simply stupid. Also consistency with plex and much better quality, not to mention frequently found bonuses like deleted scenes or interviews with creators / actors. Another thing, it’s sad to see people switching to streaming lose their interest in exploring filmography by genre, director etc and only come down to brainlessly watching any garbage recommended by netflix.
Plex is so good at finding trailers, shocks me how many streaming services don’t include trailers for their movies, seems like a no brainer
Definitely not bro. I got a server running the arr suite with download clients and have to buy HDDs to store the content and run maintenance and updates and and and and and. Don’t get me wrong, I am a nerd and love doing that, but I wouldn’t call it “convenient”.
It’s definitely the case for my wife though 🤣 she only has 2 apps, one to request content, the other to watch it.
I don’t know, you don’t have to complicate it that much really. For me buying a hard drive every few years and downloading things I, or my brothers and sisters I share Plex with, want to watch really isn’t that complex.
“Can you get X” “ok Plex is updated” is as difficult as it’s been for me.
You don’t even have to do that if you use something like Overseerr. You could even have them request media themselves.
100000000%, beyond the fact that I don’t want to pay a thousand different subscriptions, I also much prefer having everything in jellyfin or Plex. I don’t want to mess around with all these crappy streaming apps, each with their own set of limited functionality or handicaps.
Also, why would I want to watch low bitrate streams when I can get full quality Blu-ray rips. Hopefully someday streaming platforms will offer full bitrate video, as physical media will probably go away over time.
Concerns with shitty players is such a frustrating issue, too. The Paramount+ website is such hot garbage, it frustrates me anytime I try to watch anything on it.
Forget about that, spotify despite it’s size is still capped at MP3 quality maximum…
I have discover streaming from my phone plan (I don’t pay anything for it) and it’s absolute trash. Takes forever to load, buffers constantly, quality sucks. I got fed up and went to the high seas for the same show and it was beautiful with no bs. How can you mess something up so bad? I don’t bother with discover or prime anymore, high seas for everything even though I legally have the two of them.
For me it hasnt been for along time. The site I use has everything as soon as its available, stores which episodes and at which time I was last time, has intro skip, autoplay and autonext. When i want to watch a series i just type the name in my browser, auto-complete the URL and i’m done. On netflix i have to tap through multiple menues, have to login and might even get blocked because im not on my home device. I get a better service in every aspect for free.
Care to share a link? Or PM, if that’s a thing here.
It’s been said to death but at heart, I’ve always felt that when it comes to piracy, it’s a service issue, not a cost issue.
Except for you Adobe. That’s a cost issue.
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I found out the other day that LibreOffice Draw has a full pdf editor built in.
I know adobe makes many more products, but boy do I like telling people they don’t have to pay for Acrobat!
They don’t care about that, people don’t even know what a torrent is.
It doesn’t have to be self hosted piracy
some do and some are willing to learn
of course, some people are stuck in their ways but i think even the most average of laymen can see the enshittification of streaming (esp Netflix)
People figured it out before, they’ll do it again. The incentive to do so just needs to be greater than it is now, and that is changing.
One day piracy will catch up and everyone will be trading episodes of family guy, just like they used to with scanned disk and vhs cassets.