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sites doing this probably wouldn’t be worth using anyways
what about when your bank adds this? have you tried using a safetynet enforcing app on a rooted android phone? this has bigger implications than you’re seeing
lemm.ee was talking about using cloudflare (i can’t remember whether he went through with it), which will almost certainly implement this. lemmy.world already does. there is no good outcome from this going through where this only blocks google sites from firefox.
even if there was, that still means you can’t open any gdrive links you find on the internet, use a youtube tutorial to fix something, use the play store to buy any apps (because if they integrate this into chrome, they will integrate it into the play store), etc.
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hey guess what engywuck, lemm.ee uses cloudflare now:
good luck accessing lemm.ee from non-chromium if this goes through
in fact view you probably won’t be able to view any embedded youtube videos at all. people would have to go back to hosting their own videos which would push hosting costs up, which would raise the barrier of entry to people making their own sites. which is something we want to encourage
If the recent rexxit is any indicator, most people will just yield and do as the corpo says. They don’t care, they just want to keep using whatever they are used to. We have a self-selection bias problem in here in this regard.
It’s pretty key to the internet that you can access websites using any web browser or configuration you’d like, though.
While it’s true that some websites could just be avoided, if any government, education or healthcare websites implement this “for security”, the user will be forced to download and use a verified browser.
In my opinion this proposal strips users of their freedoms and should be canned.
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" it will be used by Google to deny access to their services unless you are using a browser that gels with their profit margin"
Cool. So people using a different browser will move elsewhere. Maybe they’ll even stop youtube addiction. Cant’ really see a downside.
“It is not far-fetched to imagine a future in which sites simply refuse to serve pages to users running free browsers or free operating systems.”
Same here. Sites doing this wouldn’t probably worth to be looked at anyway.
what about when your bank adds this? have you tried using a safetynet enforcing app on a rooted android phone? this has bigger implications than you’re seeing
I go in to the teller anyway. And if my bank gets rid of all the tellers I will choose between the bank of mattress or ATMs.
lemm.ee was talking about using cloudflare (i can’t remember whether he went through with it), which will almost certainly implement this. lemmy.world already does. there is no good outcome from this going through where this only blocks google sites from firefox.
even if there was, that still means you can’t open any gdrive links you find on the internet, use a youtube tutorial to fix something, use the play store to buy any apps (because if they integrate this into chrome, they will integrate it into the play store), etc.
edit 2023-08-10:
hey guess what engywuck, lemm.ee uses cloudflare now:
good luck accessing lemm.ee from non-chromium if this goes through
in fact view you probably won’t be able to view any embedded youtube videos at all. people would have to go back to hosting their own videos which would push hosting costs up, which would raise the barrier of entry to people making their own sites. which is something we want to encourage
I couldn’t care less about YouTube, Gplay or GDrive. And people hosting their own videos is a good thing, in my opinion.
Hopefully this can be stopped.
Then we’ll just have to build and migrate to alternatives, which is preferable anyway. That’s how the internet was supposed to be.
That’s not the end of the world, but fragmentation of the Web certainly doesn’t benefit anyone.
If the recent rexxit is any indicator, most people will just yield and do as the corpo says. They don’t care, they just want to keep using whatever they are used to. We have a self-selection bias problem in here in this regard.
It’s pretty key to the internet that you can access websites using any web browser or configuration you’d like, though.
While it’s true that some websites could just be avoided, if any government, education or healthcare websites implement this “for security”, the user will be forced to download and use a verified browser.
In my opinion this proposal strips users of their freedoms and should be canned.
Addictions do not really work that way
Agreed, let them try.