mastodon.art has decided to suspend firefish.social from their instance due to issues with its administrator. The administrator of firefish.social was found to be boosting posts from a known harasser on another instance. mastodon.art takes a firm stance against racism and suspending full instances in these situations is part of their policy as a safe space. The known harasser has a history of using slurs, harassment, and editing screenshots to spread misinformation. However, the administrator of firefish.social has now forged a screenshot to paint mastodon.art in a negative light.
A person trolled (not even clearly in a racist way, sorry), and the Firefish dev/firefish.social admin happened to boost a news article posted by the once-troll
Not for you to decide what’s racist and what’s not.
If I was running an instance, that’s would be a red flag for me as well.
Don’t like to be associated with Firefish dev or want to contact people on .art? Migrate. Or contact the admin and ask for stricter moderation.
Don’t want to migrate? Stay. But accept that not everybody want to share their toys with children from a sandbox that’s misbehaving.
No, I mean it’s literally not up to you to decide what’s racist, from the .art point of view. If the admin smells racist dogwhistles, or even uses intuition, they’re free to use their judgement to act as they please.
Not everyone in the instance is misbehaving.
“Not everyone” works for everything in life. Shit argument.
If your contra argument is to deal with this on a “per-user” basis, I’m pretty sure that would require a medium-sized team to do that for all users on the Fediverse.
“Abusing power” LOL. I mean, this is just pure petulance and entitlement.
I do feel bad for the folks that feel they need her protection, as they are living in fear, although I suppose that’s their choice
That’s incredibly condescending.
Not everyone wants to doomscroll on every single social media they’re on. Why is it so hard to understand?
Why do people understand that Behance, Art Station, etc, is a social network for art, but can’t comprehend that .art is for primarily for art as well, and not for twitter shit throwing?
Not everyone wants a muskian “everything website” that just bombards you with all types of content, like some sort for 4chan.
What is BBC going to bring to the table that cannot be accessed though their website? It’s just going to be a barrage of their articles with clickbait titles, just like it is on all the other social networks.
What is a safe space except a place where one can be protected from that which they fear?
Again, so condescending. And you hold yourself as one of the “good ones”? Lol. You’re just helping the .art admin’s case, the more you talk, the more the defederation makes sense.
“Fear”. Okay. That’s either a projection or… I don’t know, stupidity. Your inability to put yourself in others’ shoes is staggering, but not surprising.
Do you think that just because I walk around a pile of dogshit on the ground, I’m afraid of the dogshit? What is this logic?
Let me really chew this for you: wanting to avoid something, does not equal fear. I’m not on facebook because I fear 5G-anti-vaxx-GOP Karens, I’m not on facebook, because I don’t want to read that shit a.k.a, I WANT TO AVOID IT.
A safe space, is a space that is safe from idiocy & hate speech. A safe space where you cannot hide behind “muh free speech”. It’s basically like any other privately-controlled space, where the owner decides what is “safe”. If you enter a cafe and start giving out flyers with your own agenda, you will most likely be asked to leave. This is not because the owner is afraid of you, it’s because the owner doesn’t want you or your bullshit in their space, that they’re keeping safe. Privately held mastodon instances are not a public square. You hold no rights. You are entitled to nothing.
Defederating an entire instance based on one boost of one fairly innocuous news article
That is not what happened.
but at the expense of stepping on so many others’ toes.
Toes of fragile ego folk? Otherwise, nobody’s toes are stepped on.
I hope it’s worth all the drama.
Drama that you literally create out of thin air, just because an instance you were on got defederated? Now that’s fragility if I ever seen it.
Mastodon is a social network that’s designed to be eerily similar to Twitter
Mastodon is an open source project. It’s designed to be used in ways people find it useful to be used. Some create instagram-like experience (Pixelfed), some create Twitter-like experience, some create Behance\Ello\ArtStation experience. Your expectation of what Mastodon is and how it should be run is narrow-minded and simply incorrect.
If the aim of the mastodon.art instance isn’t close to the average use case for Mastodon
“Average use of Mastodon” sounds very similar to “Normal people”.
Sure, let’s change the domain name, because of your expectation of how Mastodon should be used.
Imagine, Mastodon.art being about… wait for it… art? On… let this sink in… Mastodon?
Administrative actions can hurt people’s feelings, too.
Ah, there it is. It’s all about YOU.
Again. Petulance & Entitlement. I’m done, it’s a case of terminal fragile-ego-techbro-ism that any time spent at the keyboard will not mend. But thanks for making me side with the .art admin even more, even though I have no horse in this race.
Hey @haxe11@beehaw.org and @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee, I think we may have reached a point in this discussion where we are talking past one another. Please keep in mind the core ethos of Beehaw: Be(e) nice. We can argue from different points of view, but please remember the human on the other side of the screen. Avoid personal attacks and insults, de-escalate when things get heated, and if a discussion devolves then it may be time to just disengage. I think we have probably reached that point, here.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !technology@beehaw.org
A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.
Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
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Don’t like to be associated with Firefish dev or want to contact people on .art? Migrate. Or contact the admin and ask for stricter moderation. Don’t want to migrate? Stay. But accept that not everybody want to share their toys with children from a sandbox that’s misbehaving.
Honestly, I really do not get what the fuss is.
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No, I mean it’s literally not up to you to decide what’s racist, from the .art point of view. If the admin smells racist dogwhistles, or even uses intuition, they’re free to use their judgement to act as they please.
“Not everyone” works for everything in life. Shit argument. If your contra argument is to deal with this on a “per-user” basis, I’m pretty sure that would require a medium-sized team to do that for all users on the Fediverse.
“Abusing power” LOL. I mean, this is just pure petulance and entitlement.
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That’s incredibly condescending. Not everyone wants to doomscroll on every single social media they’re on. Why is it so hard to understand?
Why do people understand that Behance, Art Station, etc, is a social network for art, but can’t comprehend that .art is for primarily for art as well, and not for twitter shit throwing?
Not everyone wants a muskian “everything website” that just bombards you with all types of content, like some sort for 4chan.
What is BBC going to bring to the table that cannot be accessed though their website? It’s just going to be a barrage of their articles with clickbait titles, just like it is on all the other social networks.
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Again, so condescending. And you hold yourself as one of the “good ones”? Lol. You’re just helping the .art admin’s case, the more you talk, the more the defederation makes sense.
“Fear”. Okay. That’s either a projection or… I don’t know, stupidity. Your inability to put yourself in others’ shoes is staggering, but not surprising. Do you think that just because I walk around a pile of dogshit on the ground, I’m afraid of the dogshit? What is this logic?
Let me really chew this for you: wanting to avoid something, does not equal fear. I’m not on facebook because I fear 5G-anti-vaxx-GOP Karens, I’m not on facebook, because I don’t want to read that shit a.k.a, I WANT TO AVOID IT.
A safe space, is a space that is safe from idiocy & hate speech. A safe space where you cannot hide behind “muh free speech”. It’s basically like any other privately-controlled space, where the owner decides what is “safe”. If you enter a cafe and start giving out flyers with your own agenda, you will most likely be asked to leave. This is not because the owner is afraid of you, it’s because the owner doesn’t want you or your bullshit in their space, that they’re keeping safe. Privately held mastodon instances are not a public square. You hold no rights. You are entitled to nothing.
That is not what happened.
Toes of fragile ego folk? Otherwise, nobody’s toes are stepped on.
Drama that you literally create out of thin air, just because an instance you were on got defederated? Now that’s fragility if I ever seen it.
Mastodon is an open source project. It’s designed to be used in ways people find it useful to be used. Some create instagram-like experience (Pixelfed), some create Twitter-like experience, some create Behance\Ello\ArtStation experience. Your expectation of what Mastodon is and how it should be run is narrow-minded and simply incorrect.
“Average use of Mastodon” sounds very similar to “Normal people”. Sure, let’s change the domain name, because of your expectation of how Mastodon should be used.
Imagine, Mastodon.art being about… wait for it… art? On… let this sink in… Mastodon?
Ah, there it is. It’s all about YOU. Again. Petulance & Entitlement. I’m done, it’s a case of terminal fragile-ego-techbro-ism that any time spent at the keyboard will not mend. But thanks for making me side with the .art admin even more, even though I have no horse in this race.
Hey @haxe11@beehaw.org and @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee, I think we may have reached a point in this discussion where we are talking past one another. Please keep in mind the core ethos of Beehaw: Be(e) nice. We can argue from different points of view, but please remember the human on the other side of the screen. Avoid personal attacks and insults, de-escalate when things get heated, and if a discussion devolves then it may be time to just disengage. I think we have probably reached that point, here.