This is upsetting since Tesla was going to adopt the CCS standard at their charging stations, since as far as I understand it, they were the only manufacturer with an unusual charging plug. Most everyone else was using CCS.
This announcement now means we’re farther away from a standard charging port, with Tesla, Ford, GM, and now Rivian adopting one set and others adopting another at the moment. I don’t care which one “wins” in the end or which is better, just pick one and be done with it.
Tesla adding CCS as an option at superchargers would have been good, but unless they actually switched connectors on their cars it never would have led to long term consolidation. For better or worse, tesla has 3x the US market share of the rest of the EV manufacturers combined, so no solution could ever be a universal standard without their support. In practical terms, this move means that we’re closer to a universal standard than we’ve ever been, we’re going to have 95% of cars and a majority of charging infrastructure all use one plug. Once we get to that point, there’s no chance anyone else will use CCS, nobody else has the influence necessary to keep it alive
I’d say it means that North America is finally moving to a single standard. All the other companies will get on board eventually. And the Tesla connector is better, so that’s just a bonus.
Having one unified standard is definitely the best, but I think this move can be positive with just how prevalent Tesla Superchargers are in North America, not to mention their strong uptime. Before this shift, non-Tesla CCS owners had a common standard but not that many great working stations available.
I totally agree, and aside from my personal stance of not owning a Tesla, I can’t deny they’ve managed to nail it on the Supercharger front. I think my frustration is more that the one major holdout on a non-CCS standard was already planning to build CCS support into their network. If they’re going to keep on that path, great, but I also won’t trust Musk’s promises on something like this until it’s completed (especially if more manufacturers jump onboard to NACS).
Just seems like it would have been easier to drag one company one way vs. keeping it the wild west.
Yeah my only charging station in 30 miles is a Tesla charger. But I will not ever buy a car with their proprietary port. CCS is standard elsewhere and I refuse to give my money to Tesla even if it’s indirectly. If they changed ownership and actually put QC in their products one day I may reconsider though.
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This is upsetting since Tesla was going to adopt the CCS standard at their charging stations, since as far as I understand it, they were the only manufacturer with an unusual charging plug. Most everyone else was using CCS.
This announcement now means we’re farther away from a standard charging port, with Tesla, Ford, GM, and now Rivian adopting one set and others adopting another at the moment. I don’t care which one “wins” in the end or which is better, just pick one and be done with it.
Tesla adding CCS as an option at superchargers would have been good, but unless they actually switched connectors on their cars it never would have led to long term consolidation. For better or worse, tesla has 3x the US market share of the rest of the EV manufacturers combined, so no solution could ever be a universal standard without their support. In practical terms, this move means that we’re closer to a universal standard than we’ve ever been, we’re going to have 95% of cars and a majority of charging infrastructure all use one plug. Once we get to that point, there’s no chance anyone else will use CCS, nobody else has the influence necessary to keep it alive
I’d say it means that North America is finally moving to a single standard. All the other companies will get on board eventually. And the Tesla connector is better, so that’s just a bonus.
Yep, the less ‘standards’ the better!
Having one unified standard is definitely the best, but I think this move can be positive with just how prevalent Tesla Superchargers are in North America, not to mention their strong uptime. Before this shift, non-Tesla CCS owners had a common standard but not that many great working stations available.
I totally agree, and aside from my personal stance of not owning a Tesla, I can’t deny they’ve managed to nail it on the Supercharger front. I think my frustration is more that the one major holdout on a non-CCS standard was already planning to build CCS support into their network. If they’re going to keep on that path, great, but I also won’t trust Musk’s promises on something like this until it’s completed (especially if more manufacturers jump onboard to NACS).
Just seems like it would have been easier to drag one company one way vs. keeping it the wild west.
Yeah my only charging station in 30 miles is a Tesla charger. But I will not ever buy a car with their proprietary port. CCS is standard elsewhere and I refuse to give my money to Tesla even if it’s indirectly. If they changed ownership and actually put QC in their products one day I may reconsider though.