This is not bait, I truly believe that all non-private art and information should be freely available to all for any purpose and liberating it is always a good thing. I’ll leave your report unresolved for another mod to weigh in on, but I’m not looking for an argument and gave a minimal response precisely because I did not want to encourage shit-flinging.
Despite spouting a… unique worldview, they are not the one “arguing” with anyone. They have only explained themselves and apologized for taking too much attention. I disagree entirely with their point of view but the idea that they’re picking fights?
No, that’s you. You’re turning this into a fistfight for no reason with this wildly accusatory attitude.
Projecting much? Because I am not the one not listening to reason here, it’s you. It’s not just about this one particular douchebag. It’s the principle of the thing, that is applicable to all mods everywhere on every site.
You don’t get to just decide mods arguing with people in their own communities is okay because you find one particularly likeable. You as a user have a responsibility to hold mods to higher standards to maintain the integrity of the community too, and the only one who stands to suffer because of your refusal to accept it is you.
It’s immature, and unprofessional. Anybody could goad a mod like that to misusing their authority, driving people away from the sub and completely destroying their credibility. Other people won’t put up with it.
This isn’t a job. They are a user like you who happen to also volunteer to mod because someone has to. They have just as much right to share their opinion as you do, and they did it politely. Besides, they didn’t even start an argument, they just shared an opinion, confirmed it, and then clarified again; all of it in a polite manner.
Anybody could goad a mod like that to misusing their authority
They seem to have handled the situation just fine and even left the report for other mods to handle. I really don’t see what the big issue is.
This isn’t a job. They are a user like you who happen to also volunteer to mod because someone has to.
And they willingly chose to accept the responsibility that goes along with being a mod in exchange for that kind of power over others. That means they’re going to be held to a higher ethical standard than regular users and are looked down upon if they argue with users openly, because to allow it is to allow them to do worse shit, like ban users for disagreeing with them or even winning said arguments.
It doesn’t matter if mods get paid or not. They have to adhere to that responsibility or everyone suffers, even if you personally don’t care what they do. You’re just part of the problem.
Why would any of you think it’s okay for mods to power-trip? Is it because you have no standards? Or you wish to do the same yourself?
They seem to have handled the situation just fine and even left the report for other mods to handle. I really don’t see what the big issue is.
It’s the principle of the thing, which you don’t understand because you don’t have any real values.
This post/ thread has devolved into back and forths and name calling. You can disagree with how a mod on our instance acts, however I have seen no example of a mod acting in any kind of bad way. There was no arguing. She simply shared her view point. She also said she wouldnt do anything to the report against her. I am not sure what more you want. If you ever think we are power tripping, there is a mod log for all to see. I see no use in keeping this thread open for the time being however. Locking this
Firstly, the one rule of the instance of the community you are commenting on is “be nice”, so maybe relax on the hostilities. That user acted perfectly respectfully, and you came in calling them immature and unprofessional. Afterwards, I replied to in what I think was also a polite manner, and now you’re accusing me of having no values. So if you wanna talk about no values and immaturity, feel free to look in a mirror and talk to that person. This will be my last reply to you.
Secondly, you’re asking for someone who mods a community to be excluded from it. Why would anyone want to mod a community they like, if it means being excluded from it, or why would you want the mods to be people who don’t like a community?
Why would any of you think it’s okay for mods to power-trip?
I never said anything close to even implying that, and you know that. You are simply arguing in bad faith and being a nuisance. You’ve created far more problems than they ever did, and it seems you’re the one trying to exert some kind of power over the community of an instance you are not even a part of by implying that someone, who did not act reprehensibly in any way, should step down from a mod position, just because you’ve decided they should not share their opinions.
So, to reiterate: there was a misunderstanding that was quickly cleared up. There was no abuse of power. You came in and insulted someone, then insulted me, and created a huge drama over a non-issue. And now I’m done with this conversation. Have a good day.
Firstly, the one rule of the instance of the community you are commenting on is “be nice”, so maybe relax on the hostilities.
I would say the same of you but it’s obvious you’re not listening. And that is entirely a you problem.
I’m a mod myself and an asshole, yet somehow I manage to not argue with my own users on my own subs. If I did, you’d be the first to call me out for being disrespectful and abusing my power, so why in the world would I or anyone listen to rhetoric from someone so disingenuous as you?
You don’t care about principle or properly managing a community, you only care about the fact that what I pointed out ruffled your feathers, hit too close to home, and you don’t like it.
People, above all, don’t like hearing the truth. And the truth is that you are just plain wrong and don’t want to accept it. Mods have responsibilities toward their users and that doesn’t change just because you don’t like it.
Let me tell you what you’ll tell me: go outside and touch some grass, it’s not that serious. Find it within yourself to accept it’s okay to be wrong about something.
I don’t see it as arguing. They’re just clarifying their position. And fwiw, we are all users here too. We don’t have the ability to not show the ‘M’ by our name
That would be a nice feature. I don’t always want to comment or post with my mod hat on. That said, I’m not seeing it on anyone here. Is it an instance-based thing?
Fr you’re a mod, you’re not allowed to be a human with feelings and ideas and opinions! Just blindly care about the community, don’t contribute to the discourse!!
I think your opinion is disrespectful towards artists. It implies that they don’t deserve to be compensated for their work and consequently that their profession is less worthy. Why art specifically? What sets their product apart from other goods?
I assume because the topic is video games. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure they are against the whole current system and would prefer a gift based economy. I don’t think they are defending a capitalist system where artists don’t get paid.
I’m not sure whether to agree or disagree with you but thanks for being polite about it. Sorry for calling your comment baiting but when I saw something like that that just didn’t expand on anything I figured it would be. Most troll comments are like that. Say something controversial without expanding on it to encourage arguments.
In fact id consider that kind of comment to encourage far more shit-flinging than something thought out like this.
Ahaha yes I think it’s kinda suspect too. Imagine spending millions & millions on a quality title just to give it away for free?
Why would they even do that? Could they even do it? (I believe) It does not work like that :)
Seriously, I can’t imagine a world where you invest millions in a project just to give it for free. I don’t see how someone could think it’s frustrating.
For once, if you like a game and want to support the industry, buy it. Vote with your wallet.
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Disappointing to see baiting from a mod.
This is not bait, I truly believe that all non-private art and information should be freely available to all for any purpose and liberating it is always a good thing. I’ll leave your report unresolved for another mod to weigh in on, but I’m not looking for an argument and gave a minimal response precisely because I did not want to encourage shit-flinging.
What kind of a mod argues with people in their own community? 🤔
Despite spouting a… unique worldview, they are not the one “arguing” with anyone. They have only explained themselves and apologized for taking too much attention. I disagree entirely with their point of view but the idea that they’re picking fights?
No, that’s you. You’re turning this into a fistfight for no reason with this wildly accusatory attitude.
Projecting much? Because I am not the one not listening to reason here, it’s you. It’s not just about this one particular douchebag. It’s the principle of the thing, that is applicable to all mods everywhere on every site.
You don’t get to just decide mods arguing with people in their own communities is okay because you find one particularly likeable. You as a user have a responsibility to hold mods to higher standards to maintain the integrity of the community too, and the only one who stands to suffer because of your refusal to accept it is you.
There is much projecting here, indeed.
Sounds like you ought to stop it and think about what you’re doing.
They’re a user too, and they’re arguing respectfully. What’s the problem?
It’s immature, and unprofessional. Anybody could goad a mod like that to misusing their authority, driving people away from the sub and completely destroying their credibility. Other people won’t put up with it.
This isn’t a job. They are a user like you who happen to also volunteer to mod because someone has to. They have just as much right to share their opinion as you do, and they did it politely. Besides, they didn’t even start an argument, they just shared an opinion, confirmed it, and then clarified again; all of it in a polite manner.
They seem to have handled the situation just fine and even left the report for other mods to handle. I really don’t see what the big issue is.
And they willingly chose to accept the responsibility that goes along with being a mod in exchange for that kind of power over others. That means they’re going to be held to a higher ethical standard than regular users and are looked down upon if they argue with users openly, because to allow it is to allow them to do worse shit, like ban users for disagreeing with them or even winning said arguments.
It doesn’t matter if mods get paid or not. They have to adhere to that responsibility or everyone suffers, even if you personally don’t care what they do. You’re just part of the problem.
Why would any of you think it’s okay for mods to power-trip? Is it because you have no standards? Or you wish to do the same yourself?
It’s the principle of the thing, which you don’t understand because you don’t have any real values.
This post/ thread has devolved into back and forths and name calling. You can disagree with how a mod on our instance acts, however I have seen no example of a mod acting in any kind of bad way. There was no arguing. She simply shared her view point. She also said she wouldnt do anything to the report against her. I am not sure what more you want. If you ever think we are power tripping, there is a mod log for all to see. I see no use in keeping this thread open for the time being however. Locking this
Firstly, the one rule of the instance of the community you are commenting on is “be nice”, so maybe relax on the hostilities. That user acted perfectly respectfully, and you came in calling them immature and unprofessional. Afterwards, I replied to in what I think was also a polite manner, and now you’re accusing me of having no values. So if you wanna talk about no values and immaturity, feel free to look in a mirror and talk to that person. This will be my last reply to you.
Secondly, you’re asking for someone who mods a community to be excluded from it. Why would anyone want to mod a community they like, if it means being excluded from it, or why would you want the mods to be people who don’t like a community?
I never said anything close to even implying that, and you know that. You are simply arguing in bad faith and being a nuisance. You’ve created far more problems than they ever did, and it seems you’re the one trying to exert some kind of power over the community of an instance you are not even a part of by implying that someone, who did not act reprehensibly in any way, should step down from a mod position, just because you’ve decided they should not share their opinions.
So, to reiterate: there was a misunderstanding that was quickly cleared up. There was no abuse of power. You came in and insulted someone, then insulted me, and created a huge drama over a non-issue. And now I’m done with this conversation. Have a good day.
I would say the same of you but it’s obvious you’re not listening. And that is entirely a you problem.
I’m a mod myself and an asshole, yet somehow I manage to not argue with my own users on my own subs. If I did, you’d be the first to call me out for being disrespectful and abusing my power, so why in the world would I or anyone listen to rhetoric from someone so disingenuous as you?
You don’t care about principle or properly managing a community, you only care about the fact that what I pointed out ruffled your feathers, hit too close to home, and you don’t like it.
People, above all, don’t like hearing the truth. And the truth is that you are just plain wrong and don’t want to accept it. Mods have responsibilities toward their users and that doesn’t change just because you don’t like it.
Let me tell you what you’ll tell me: go outside and touch some grass, it’s not that serious. Find it within yourself to accept it’s okay to be wrong about something.
I suppose they could use a separate account. Mods getting into arguments with users has a tendency to look bad.
I don’t see it as arguing. They’re just clarifying their position. And fwiw, we are all users here too. We don’t have the ability to not show the ‘M’ by our name
That would be a nice feature. I don’t always want to comment or post with my mod hat on. That said, I’m not seeing it on anyone here. Is it an instance-based thing?
I believe beehaw admins may have done some tinkering to not get it to show up on beehaw itself. But other instances still see it
Def! The shield exists for a reason. We don’t need to be on all the time
Fr you’re a mod, you’re not allowed to be a human with feelings and ideas and opinions! Just blindly care about the community, don’t contribute to the discourse!!
I said argue, not contribute to discourse.
Arguing is a large part of discord.
I think your opinion is disrespectful towards artists. It implies that they don’t deserve to be compensated for their work and consequently that their profession is less worthy. Why art specifically? What sets their product apart from other goods?
I assume because the topic is video games. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure they are against the whole current system and would prefer a gift based economy. I don’t think they are defending a capitalist system where artists don’t get paid.
I see, thank you!
You realize these studios operate in capitalist societies right?
I’m not sure whether to agree or disagree with you but thanks for being polite about it. Sorry for calling your comment baiting but when I saw something like that that just didn’t expand on anything I figured it would be. Most troll comments are like that. Say something controversial without expanding on it to encourage arguments.
In fact id consider that kind of comment to encourage far more shit-flinging than something thought out like this.
Ahaha yes I think it’s kinda suspect too. Imagine spending millions & millions on a quality title just to give it away for free?
Why would they even do that? Could they even do it? (I believe) It does not work like that :)
Seriously, I can’t imagine a world where you invest millions in a project just to give it for free. I don’t see how someone could think it’s frustrating.
For once, if you like a game and want to support the industry, buy it. Vote with your wallet.