there’s no reason to believe what you claimed. a claim made without justification can be dismissed without justification.

What unjustified claim did I make that you disagree with? Seems all rather uncontroversial to me.

The moral thing to do is to pay your share of that if you make a copy, even if the copy itself doesn’t cost anything.

i don’t need to disagree to disbelieve. i do disagree, but without establishing your justification for this claim, it’s kind of hard to argue against it.

The justification was that creating things has a cost, even if a copy doesn’t, and that we should distribute that cost as fairly as possible among the people benefiting from the creation.

that’s doesn’t follow

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Idk what to tell you but: Yes it does. We can’t really argue if you refuse to elaborate your point.

when you drive over a bridge, do you tip the engineering form? the contractors? they’re the ones who created this experience for you.

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I pay taxes, those were used to pay the people who build the bridge. And yes, taxes should be fair. If it’s a private bridge then the owners have every right to demand a fee for crossing it.

not the owners: the designers. what if I copy the bridge and put it in my front yard: do you think I owe royalties to the engineering firm?

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Yes, you do, in the form of buying gas or paying taxes. You don’t even have to use the bridge to have to pay for it.

so use isn’t tied to paying. one has nothing to do with the other.

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They made a justification. They showed you how people couldn’t make these things without people paying for them.

They showed you how people couldn’t make these things without people paying for them.

but that’s not true. people make things all the time without being paid.

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people make things all the time without being paid.

Less people make things without being paid than those who make things to get paid. That is a common fact we can both agree on. If you need the number of open source games compared to the number of paid games then I recommend you grab those numbers yourself.

“snake game” returns over one hundred twenty thousand results on github.

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You are equating someone’s terrible hobby project to paid games like it’s 1 to 1. You are simply arguing in bad faith. Have a good day though, hopefully, one day we can converse properly.

you’re moving the goalposts.

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Not at all. I just assumed you understood the basics of quality.

you never mentioned ‘quality’ until you wanted to disqualify data that didn’t support your position.

this doesn’t prove anyone ever needs to be paid to make something. a single counter example disproves the claim.

there are over one hundred fifty thousand results on github for “tictactoe”.

just how many paid games do you think there are, by the way?

github shows a hundred thousand repositories for the query “hangman”. assuming 10% of them are false positives it’s still a great number.

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