Too bad for your little pet issue of denying this easily confirmed fact, for some reason, Aniki of lemm.ee, favored instance of people with suspiciously fascistic takes, that they used Le Monde as their source instead of just making the numbers up.
This is just going blow to the top of your skull right off, but Israel’s genocidal actions finally meeting broad disapproval can embolden actual anti-semites just as easily as having a Hitler quoting former American president or open neo-Nazi and fascist parties gaining seats in major legislatures.
Man, it’d be wild if all these things were happening at once, huh?
You might see a rise in hate crimes against random, uninvolved Jewish people in different countries or something.
Did some PR firm buy all of these different independent organizations and journalists - or are you just using a variety of the old antisemitic accusation of a Jewish controlled press and institutions?
Are you going to deny all of this evidence? Don’t you think that many so-called “pro-Palestinian” protests just happen to be staged in Jewish quarters by coincidence?
The first “pro-Palestine” protests were on October 7, before even the first Israeli bomb had been bombed in response, as terrorists were still busy slaughtering civilians in Israel:
No. I’m honestly trying to educate, even though I’m absolutely disgusted by your comments. None of what I wrote is inaccurate and by my own standards, this is not a very long comment either. If that’s too much reading for you to the point that you feel overwhelmed, then that’s your problem and I hope that at least someone else can get some use out of it.
Do you have any actual arguments or are you just going to hide behind this platitude? Imagine having the audacity to tell Jews that the hatred, discrimination and violence they are experience isn’t real. Would you do the same with POC or LGBTQ+ people? Deny their suffering outright, because it doesn’t fit into your narrative?
[Not a criticism of your point, but I think you did get trolled into a gish gallop. First take a breath… then use bullet points, don’t cut your own argument to pieces with interspersed links, keep the references as references to strengthen the argument, try not to make it too personal]
The thing is that Israel is currently engaging in genocide, and claims to be doing it in the name of Jews everywhere. The same way anti-Muslim sentiment increased in response to Muslim terrorism, antisemitism rises when people use that religion as a justification for killing people.
Just to be clear, the current wave of antisemitism is not justified, it’s a bad eye-for-an-eye thought process, but people are stupid and people are outraged with the genocide Israel is doing. It’s the same line of thought as ACAB; if local Jewish communities also condemn genocide, why are they not publicly and harshly denouncing Israel for it?
In order for this not to happen, Israel would either have to stop claiming to be the representative of Jewish people worldwide, or stop engaging in genocide.
It’s the same line of thought as ACAB; if local Jewish communities also condemn genocide, why are they not publicly and harshly denouncing Israel for it?
Except it’s possible to be Jewish without supporting Israel, but not possible to be a cop without supporting the police as a social institution.
Did you look at the sources for that? The ADL are known propagandists. Also the numbers in France and Germany per population are so statistically insignificant that the number of dead 5 year olds in Gaza since October is 10x the numbers of people who got yelled at for being a Jew.
The RIAS group said it recorded 994 incidents, which is an average of 29 incidents per day and an increase of 320% compared to the same time period in 2022. The group looked at the time period from Oct. 7 to Nov. 9.
There are 84 million people in Germany. What a SURGE! Also I would love to know what an incident is. Someone yell something anti-Israel most likely, which I don’t give a flying fuck about. Where are the assaults, murders, rape, genocide, imprisonment, internment, displacement?
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Antisemitism isn’t soaring. The world is waking up to Israels crimes and they are screaming from every PR firm they can buy about racism.
Too bad for your little pet issue of denying this easily confirmed fact, for some reason, Aniki of lemm.ee, favored instance of people with suspiciously fascistic takes, that they used Le Monde as their source instead of just making the numbers up.
This is just going blow to the top of your skull right off, but Israel’s genocidal actions finally meeting broad disapproval can embolden actual anti-semites just as easily as having a Hitler quoting former American president or open neo-Nazi and fascist parties gaining seats in major legislatures.
Man, it’d be wild if all these things were happening at once, huh?
You might see a rise in hate crimes against random, uninvolved Jewish people in different countries or something.
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I would remind you that you are a guest here. People do not come to Beehaw for ad hominems.
What’s this then?
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/nov/03/record-number-hate-incidents-british-jews-reported-hamas-attacks
And this?
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/absolutely-appalling-a-new-wave-of-anti-semitism-sweeps-across-germany-a-50e18e6a-03ae-4ea5-99ec-6d0c8753558a
And this?
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_23_5527
Did some PR firm buy all of these different independent organizations and journalists - or are you just using a variety of the old antisemitic accusation of a Jewish controlled press and institutions?
Are you going to deny all of this evidence? Don’t you think that many so-called “pro-Palestinian” protests just happen to be staged in Jewish quarters by coincidence?
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/pro-palestinian-blockades-are-now-just-actively-targeting-jewish-neighbourhoods
https://nltimes.nl/2023/10/10/pro-palestinian-march-faces-backlash-route-amsterdam-jewish-quarter
Do you think there’s nothing to the fact that Jews are routinely harassed at these protests?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-67328715
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/31/politics/antisemitism-unstable-world-analysis/index.html
Tell me what a Jewish restaurant has to do with the state of Israel:
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/pro-palestinian-rally-center-city-philadelphia-targets-jewish-restaurant-goldie/
These people heard rumors of Jews on a plane and wanted to kill them:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67258332
The first “pro-Palestine” protests were on October 7, before even the first Israeli bomb had been bombed in response, as terrorists were still busy slaughtering civilians in Israel:
https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-some-in-toronto-celebrating-mass-murder-of-israelis-as-death-toll-mounts
The BDS movement put out a statement that celebrated the murder of Israeli civilians:
https://i.imgur.com/pXwABqt.jpg
And so on and so forth.
Explain to me why you are denying the rise in global antisemitism. Why are you denying facts?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop
No. I’m honestly trying to educate, even though I’m absolutely disgusted by your comments. None of what I wrote is inaccurate and by my own standards, this is not a very long comment either. If that’s too much reading for you to the point that you feel overwhelmed, then that’s your problem and I hope that at least someone else can get some use out of it.
Do you have any actual arguments or are you just going to hide behind this platitude? Imagine having the audacity to tell Jews that the hatred, discrimination and violence they are experience isn’t real. Would you do the same with POC or LGBTQ+ people? Deny their suffering outright, because it doesn’t fit into your narrative?
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[Not a criticism of your point, but I think you did get trolled into a gish gallop. First take a breath… then use bullet points, don’t cut your own argument to pieces with interspersed links, keep the references as references to strengthen the argument, try not to make it too personal]
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The thing is that Israel is currently engaging in genocide, and claims to be doing it in the name of Jews everywhere. The same way anti-Muslim sentiment increased in response to Muslim terrorism, antisemitism rises when people use that religion as a justification for killing people.
Just to be clear, the current wave of antisemitism is not justified, it’s a bad eye-for-an-eye thought process, but people are stupid and people are outraged with the genocide Israel is doing. It’s the same line of thought as ACAB; if local Jewish communities also condemn genocide, why are they not publicly and harshly denouncing Israel for it?
In order for this not to happen, Israel would either have to stop claiming to be the representative of Jewish people worldwide, or stop engaging in genocide.
Except it’s possible to be Jewish without supporting Israel, but not possible to be a cop without supporting the police as a social institution.
Did you look at the sources for that? The ADL are known propagandists. Also the numbers in France and Germany per population are so statistically insignificant that the number of dead 5 year olds in Gaza since October is 10x the numbers of people who got yelled at for being a Jew.
There are 84 million people in Germany. What a SURGE! Also I would love to know what an incident is. Someone yell something anti-Israel most likely, which I don’t give a flying fuck about. Where are the assaults, murders, rape, genocide, imprisonment, internment, displacement?