No, according to the courts (one court), an emergency in one city does not meet the requirements for the Federal emergencies act, and didn’t take into account the negligence of the multiple layers of regional policing and government who refused to act.
Did you bother reading the ruling? The refusal of the city / province to act doesn’t equate to the inability of them to control the situation. The court definitely did account for that part.
I don’t know who you were talking to but I live in downtown Ottawa and it was absolutely a million times worse than any sporting event. I’m guessing your friends live in the suburbs, where the most they might have seen were some flag waving pickup trucks.
I was harassed the minute I walked out my door, there was literal shit covering the sidewalks, emergency vehicles blocked, businesses vandalised. The city basically shut down for 3-4 weeks. I know people who had to leave their homes to live with their family outside of downtown out of fear. People were physically attacked for wearing masks for fuck sakes.
Ottawa Police did absolutely nothing to stop it and Doug Ford declared a state of emergency but then pretended it wasn’t happening. The only thing that ended it all was the federal emergency act. I don’t like that it needed to be used either but the two lower levels of power completely failed
I don’t disagree politically bro, I disagree scientifically, and logically. Our government had a responsibility to remove you terrorists, they just did it a way that allows you twats to act like your oppressed.
You? I’m just a Yank who sees injustice. I don’t know anything about it other than a person in power froze the people’s bank account of some of its citizens and that’s wild asf. If they were Nazis I wasn’t aware but it’s still not okay to take money someone earned. Make a law that fines Nazis if you have to but don’t just freeze people’s bank accounts, that’s fucked up.
Most frozen accounts were organizers and people who were receiving money from others to continue with their “protests” or people espousing violent rhetoric. If you just believe the ticktoks you’re never going to see reality. These fucking idiots are still protesting all over our country, afraid of digital IDs ,vaccines, demanding mandates be dropped, people be rehired. Like dude they crazy and don’t mesh well with reality.
The antivax cowards had many peaceful protests previously without issue. They weren’t getting their demands met because their demands were idiotic.
So they escalated to disrupting the functioning of the government. Using psyops tactics against civilians. Harrassing civilians. Disrupting emergency services.
And for what? It wasn’t to increase awareness of covid restrictions. These restrictions were placed on the entire population, we were all aware of them. No it was an attempt to affect a change using extortion. Changes contrary to the democratic will of the country.
Since you love the slippery slope fallacies, consider the slope in the other direction. If an organized crime outfit used intimidation tactics to get their way, could they declare it as a “protest” and get off scot free? Where do you draw the line in that direction?
“Slippery slope is a logical fallacy” is a phrase parroted by people who usually don’t understand why it can sometimes be a logical fallacy. And sometimes not. You can’t just say “Slippery slope is a logical fallacy” and then follow up with “Some motherfuckers always trying to ice skate uphill”. Everything you said is deliberately disingenuous and not a good faith argument, and that’s either intentional or you’re not capable of better,
Not commenting on the argument, but just FYI: “Slippery Slope” actually refers to an argument that could include a slippery slope fallacy, but not necessarily. A slippery slope fallacy is an informal fallacy, meaning that any errors are in the content and not the format of the argument (i.e. the slippery slope argument itself).
These idiots think because the CBC supports the story, and the government inquiry pulled the cop trick of investigating themselves and finding they did nothing wrong in a kangaroo court, including gov lawyers by the handful and the opposition not allowed to defend themselves, that when it hit a real courtroom, and was found in violation of the charter, the actual half assed independent judge was the one in the wrong, not the fucking cabal.
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Peaceful protest it was not.
According to the courts it did not meet the standard of violence required.
No, according to the courts (one court), an emergency in one city does not meet the requirements for the Federal emergencies act, and didn’t take into account the negligence of the multiple layers of regional policing and government who refused to act.
Did you bother reading the ruling? The refusal of the city / province to act doesn’t equate to the inability of them to control the situation. The court definitely did account for that part.
A city under siege with no police protection is an emergency, full stop.
Lol, I know people that live in the area and they’ve said it wasn’t worse than what happens during major sporting events.
I don’t know who you were talking to but I live in downtown Ottawa and it was absolutely a million times worse than any sporting event. I’m guessing your friends live in the suburbs, where the most they might have seen were some flag waving pickup trucks.
I was harassed the minute I walked out my door, there was literal shit covering the sidewalks, emergency vehicles blocked, businesses vandalised. The city basically shut down for 3-4 weeks. I know people who had to leave their homes to live with their family outside of downtown out of fear. People were physically attacked for wearing masks for fuck sakes.
Ottawa Police did absolutely nothing to stop it and Doug Ford declared a state of emergency but then pretended it wasn’t happening. The only thing that ended it all was the federal emergency act. I don’t like that it needed to be used either but the two lower levels of power completely failed
He’s just denying reality at this point.
Failing and not putting forth adequate effort are two very different things and is something discussed thoroughly in the court ruling.
Lol.
There aren’t even any major sporting venues in that area.
The people who you “know” clearly do not live in the area.
So you agree it was violent and not peaceful? Lol whoops.
In a world where some consider mean words and minor action as violent, yes it was.
Lol means words and “minor action” it was not. Well we can see you for what you are, trying to downplay reality. Cheers.
Doesn’t make it illegal bud. Learn how our system works before opening your COVID riddled mouth.
Why tf does it matter what the protests were about? You disagree politically so it’s okay for the government to do that? That’s a slippery slope.
I don’t disagree politically bro, I disagree scientifically, and logically. Our government had a responsibility to remove you terrorists, they just did it a way that allows you twats to act like your oppressed.
You? I’m just a Yank who sees injustice. I don’t know anything about it other than a person in power froze the people’s bank account of some of its citizens and that’s wild asf. If they were Nazis I wasn’t aware but it’s still not okay to take money someone earned. Make a law that fines Nazis if you have to but don’t just freeze people’s bank accounts, that’s fucked up.
It’s always the people who weren’t there who continue to push the idea that it was a peaceful protest.
Why is this a reply to me? I never mentioned anything about peaceful protesting.
Most frozen accounts were organizers and people who were receiving money from others to continue with their “protests” or people espousing violent rhetoric. If you just believe the ticktoks you’re never going to see reality. These fucking idiots are still protesting all over our country, afraid of digital IDs ,vaccines, demanding mandates be dropped, people be rehired. Like dude they crazy and don’t mesh well with reality.
So let the idiots yell, don’t stop them from being able to pay for necessities.
“Slippery slope” is a logical fallacy.
The antivax cowards had many peaceful protests previously without issue. They weren’t getting their demands met because their demands were idiotic.
So they escalated to disrupting the functioning of the government. Using psyops tactics against civilians. Harrassing civilians. Disrupting emergency services.
And for what? It wasn’t to increase awareness of covid restrictions. These restrictions were placed on the entire population, we were all aware of them. No it was an attempt to affect a change using extortion. Changes contrary to the democratic will of the country.
Since you love the slippery slope fallacies, consider the slope in the other direction. If an organized crime outfit used intimidation tactics to get their way, could they declare it as a “protest” and get off scot free? Where do you draw the line in that direction?
“Slippery slope is a logical fallacy” is a phrase parroted by people who usually don’t understand why it can sometimes be a logical fallacy. And sometimes not. You can’t just say “Slippery slope is a logical fallacy” and then follow up with “Some motherfuckers always trying to ice skate uphill”. Everything you said is deliberately disingenuous and not a good faith argument, and that’s either intentional or you’re not capable of better,
Not commenting on the argument, but just FYI: “Slippery Slope” actually refers to an argument that could include a slippery slope fallacy, but not necessarily. A slippery slope fallacy is an informal fallacy, meaning that any errors are in the content and not the format of the argument (i.e. the slippery slope argument itself).
He either knows that, or it was on that list of logical fallacies he read the names of and thinks you can just say “Slippery Slope” and win.
If it wasn’t illegal then the government wouldn’t have lost the court case.
These idiots think because the CBC supports the story, and the government inquiry pulled the cop trick of investigating themselves and finding they did nothing wrong in a kangaroo court, including gov lawyers by the handful and the opposition not allowed to defend themselves, that when it hit a real courtroom, and was found in violation of the charter, the actual half assed independent judge was the one in the wrong, not the fucking cabal.