I am the Rust programmer, I will rewrite the world in Rust. I will rewrite the world in Rust because the world is unsafe. As I am the Rust programmer I will ...
I am the Rust programmer, I will rewrite the world in Rust. I will rewrite the world in Rust because the world is unsafe. As I am the Rust programmer I will keep writing rust until the world is safe. After the world is safe, I will not rewrite it in Rust. Because I am the Rust programmer I will retire from programmer in Rust.
I will come to you when you are sleeping, and I will unloc k your computer using a memory leak. If I find javascript on your computer, I will delete them. Do not try to stop me, if you try to stop me I will do it anyways. I am the Rust programmer, if you program in javascript, you will scream.
You will be sleeping as I rewrite your computer in Rust. You will not notice me as I am the Rust programmer, I am fast, but not too fast for your computer. I know your computer just as it knows me. After I rewrite your computer, you will love your computer. You will love your computer because it is written in Rust, I will do the same to all computers because I am the Rust programmer.
I will not stop at your computer, I will rewrite the world because the world is unsafe. Your brain is written in C, your memory is unsafe. If your brain is written in C, you will forget what I just said. I will rewrite your brain in Rust, you cannot stop me from writing Rust as I am the Rust programmer. If you try to stop me, you will not remember it. Because I am the Rust programmer I can manually remove your memory, you will not remember me. After I rewrite you in Rust, you will enjoy the world with a safe memory, you will not forget that I am superior, I am the Rust programmer.
I will rewrite the world, I will rewrite quantum mecahnics because it is unsafe. I will not tell you all my plans before I rewrite you in Rust, it is because you are made of bugs I do not trust you. I am the Rust programmer, I will rewrite the world in Rust, you will not forget me because I am the Rust programmer.
I have heard strange things about Lemmy development in general, so it makes sense that something else would pop up eventually. Java though? I avoid JVMs like the plague and the security track record for spring* is spotty at best.
Still, if some people prefer it that way, whatever.
I agree, I stay away from JVMs because they are a pain in the ass to administer and like you said, are usually coded by the lowest bidder.
In a well maintained environment, I have nothing against JVMs actually.
I was just bitching about the spring framework family. While security updates are frequent, Java apps tend to not age well and commonly suffer from version lock-in. (I am going through a round of that at my current job with spring auth stuffs being the offender.)
You mean the new Spring Security deprecating some of the older APIs? I agree that the new version changes a lot of stuff but IMO these changes are much more welcome and more streamlined than before. It’s better to do it once and you don’t have to touch the security config all too often once it’s done.
I don’t understand the bad rap that Spring gets. Compared to the other frameworks around (Jakarta EE, etc) it’s much more accessible than people realize, plus a very mature ecosystem.
Same, but I guess if you have a idea you want to build then using a language you are already comfortable with makes it a lot smoother than learning one that could be a better fit.
I can agree with that. There isn’t anything wrong with diversity as long as the entire ecosystem benefits from it. There are pros and cons, but not really worth going into that here.
At the end of the day, this is the fediverse. If someone wants to write instance code in COBOL to run on a toaster, you go right ahead! (It doesn’t mean I am going to support that effort, but my own personal opinion is insignificant in the whole scheme of things.)
Having dabbled in rust I really like the error reporting, but it doesn’t seem nearly as readable at a glance as something like python or c#. Better than C++ though I’ve seen some eldritch scrawl in that language
I believe readability is mostly about experience. The more you read, and the more familiar you get with the typical idioms, the easier and faster it gets.
Rust puts a lot more information into the type system than C#, the result is much better type safety and compile time guarantees at the expense of longer and more complex type signatures. This also plays a part. But for me, I love strong, expressive type systems. I want my program to fail compilation, not explode at runtime.
Apparently it’s so that it is easier for more people to contribute because java is known by more people than rust.
The sublinks dev is also promising better mod tools. The LW team said something about also helping to develop it and eventually use it as the backend.
Java is reasonably fast though, as the JRE is pretty well optimized at this point. Languages closer to being fully interpreted like JS and Python (technically both python and JS still get compiled to a lower target and then interpreted) are still noticeably slower.
Edit: there’s also the fact that JS/TS runs on a single thread, so it’s inherently limited for applications intended to be scaled up.
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Cool. Now go post this in the community where they are re-writting Lemmy in Java.
Wait, is that really happening? If so, Lemmy backend, here I come! (I am a C# programmer, Rust scares me)
Yeah for some reason
https://sublinks.org/
My reaction on this is: Whatever.
I have heard strange things about Lemmy development in general, so it makes sense that something else would pop up eventually. Java though? I avoid JVMs like the plague and the security track record for spring* is spotty at best.
Still, if some people prefer it that way, whatever.
Don’t avoid JVMs for “security” reasons, the security industry will raise CVE’s against anything they think will look good on their CV.
Avoid JVM’s because they are synonymous with overengineered, bloated, overly verbose code with crazy memory requirements for what they deliver
Sorry, my points were mixed unintentionally.
I agree, I stay away from JVMs because they are a pain in the ass to administer and like you said, are usually coded by the lowest bidder.
In a well maintained environment, I have nothing against JVMs actually.
I was just bitching about the spring framework family. While security updates are frequent, Java apps tend to not age well and commonly suffer from version lock-in. (I am going through a round of that at my current job with spring auth stuffs being the offender.)
You mean the new Spring Security deprecating some of the older APIs? I agree that the new version changes a lot of stuff but IMO these changes are much more welcome and more streamlined than before. It’s better to do it once and you don’t have to touch the security config all too often once it’s done.
I don’t understand the bad rap that Spring gets. Compared to the other frameworks around (Jakarta EE, etc) it’s much more accessible than people realize, plus a very mature ecosystem.
Same, but I guess if you have a idea you want to build then using a language you are already comfortable with makes it a lot smoother than learning one that could be a better fit.
I can agree with that. There isn’t anything wrong with diversity as long as the entire ecosystem benefits from it. There are pros and cons, but not really worth going into that here.
At the end of the day, this is the fediverse. If someone wants to write instance code in COBOL to run on a toaster, you go right ahead! (It doesn’t mean I am going to support that effort, but my own personal opinion is insignificant in the whole scheme of things.)
Damn now you made me want to learn COBOL just for the meme…
Great! I’m so happy they kept it Lemmy compatible
It shouldn’t scare you.
Check this out: https://microsoft.github.io/rust-for-dotnet-devs/latest/
Having dabbled in rust I really like the error reporting, but it doesn’t seem nearly as readable at a glance as something like python or c#. Better than C++ though I’ve seen some eldritch scrawl in that language
I believe readability is mostly about experience. The more you read, and the more familiar you get with the typical idioms, the easier and faster it gets.
Rust puts a lot more information into the type system than C#, the result is much better type safety and compile time guarantees at the expense of longer and more complex type signatures. This also plays a part. But for me, I love strong, expressive type systems. I want my program to fail compilation, not explode at runtime.
What’s the point tho
Apparently it’s so that it is easier for more people to contribute because java is known by more people than rust. The sublinks dev is also promising better mod tools. The LW team said something about also helping to develop it and eventually use it as the backend.
Seems like a silly reason to me. By that logic we might as well rewrite it in JavaScript.
Java is reasonably fast though, as the JRE is pretty well optimized at this point. Languages closer to being fully interpreted like JS and Python (technically both python and JS still get compiled to a lower target and then interpreted) are still noticeably slower.
Edit: there’s also the fact that JS/TS runs on a single thread, so it’s inherently limited for applications intended to be scaled up.
I agree with all of that, and thus conclude that Java being known to many was not the only reason, which was my point. 😊
There’s also PieFed, which is the same but with Python