Why does it matter? The devs make the program not the investor.
The only reason I would refuse the tech was if the investor would try to change the direction of development or is giving out money from questionable sources…
I know nothing about this person, but on multiple occasions I’ve had the thought that if I was a gazillionaire, I’d sponsor a bunch of open source. Maybe this is that? I’ll choose to stay hopeful (though I’m kinda dumb about this sorta stuff)
Elite programmers make most of the important stuff
This is false. Not even gonna elaborate.
Competition is the solution
No. Competition is inefficient and the best software we have is built cooperatively. Linux, most open source software. We dislike duplication for a reason and seek to avoid it when possible. We try to avoid forking, instead we try to work together as much as possible. Corporations also run things cooperatively internally instead of duplicating effort. Competition is only needed when you a profit driven market is what determines what’s offered and used and it comes with tremendous inefficiency.
I’m a big fan of free market capitalism. When there’s a lot of churn…
Yeah. See above.
If you have an individual in charge of a company, that’s better than having a mob
Oh Jesus… He doesn’t realize that most of the problems that developers face which they can’t fix, including himself when he was at Yahoo, are exactly because there’s a guy or few in charge and the developers have no decision power.
Quit your job …
Nope. I won’t quit my job to join another place where I have no vote. As long as you’re creating companies that aren’t democratic by design, I’m changing one guy profiting from me for another. If the other guy is marginally more ethical, that’s only gonna last as long as the push for profit knocks on the door. We can’t all be CEOs so the only way to build sustainably ethical companies is for them to be ruled by the mob. One person, one vote. Otherwise I’m better off creating democracy by working to unionize the existing corporations.
If the guy wants to fund FOSS, great. But unfortunately this FUTO venture is unlikely to be the organization that dramatically changes the status quo. We need another billi that has read and understood a bit about class analysis and democracy to do that.
Watched this talk as well. These folks are clueless. I’m glad the Immich devs are getting money from them but that’s not gonna last. Eron himself went about if they don’t have X users in Y time, then they’ll have problems (they not being Immich specifically).
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Funded by a (somewhat controversial) tech billionair, see a recent interview with him here: https://youtu.be/5UHF84gyVWg
How is he controversial? the only negative thing I’ve seen about FUTO is the proprietary license grayjay is under.
Some of the views he expressed in the past sounded a lot like Elon Musk before he went full bonkers recently. But I guess it could be worse.
Why does it matter? The devs make the program not the investor.
The only reason I would refuse the tech was if the investor would try to change the direction of development or is giving out money from questionable sources…
If you fund, you influence.
You can alao invest without influencing?
The very fact that the developer’s livelihood now depends on the investor is enough to influence development significantly.
Does it matter? At the end of the day it’s still money put in to open source.
Yes, because there’s a desire, conscious or unconscious, to keep that money flowing, which means pleasing the investor.
If that happens, it will be forked
The other partner in FUTO is Louis Rossman. Maybe one cancels out the other?
I’m pretty sure Louis is just another recipient of FUTO’s funding, not “the” other partner to this dude.
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I know nothing about this person, but on multiple occasions I’ve had the thought that if I was a gazillionaire, I’d sponsor a bunch of open source. Maybe this is that? I’ll choose to stay hopeful (though I’m kinda dumb about this sorta stuff)
This is some naive stuff right here.
This is false. Not even gonna elaborate.
No. Competition is inefficient and the best software we have is built cooperatively. Linux, most open source software. We dislike duplication for a reason and seek to avoid it when possible. We try to avoid forking, instead we try to work together as much as possible. Corporations also run things cooperatively internally instead of duplicating effort. Competition is only needed when you a profit driven market is what determines what’s offered and used and it comes with tremendous inefficiency.
Yeah. See above.
Oh Jesus… He doesn’t realize that most of the problems that developers face which they can’t fix, including himself when he was at Yahoo, are exactly because there’s a guy or few in charge and the developers have no decision power.
Nope. I won’t quit my job to join another place where I have no vote. As long as you’re creating companies that aren’t democratic by design, I’m changing one guy profiting from me for another. If the other guy is marginally more ethical, that’s only gonna last as long as the push for profit knocks on the door. We can’t all be CEOs so the only way to build sustainably ethical companies is for them to be ruled by the mob. One person, one vote. Otherwise I’m better off creating democracy by working to unionize the existing corporations.
If the guy wants to fund FOSS, great. But unfortunately this FUTO venture is unlikely to be the organization that dramatically changes the status quo. We need another billi that has read and understood a bit about class analysis and democracy to do that.
Watched this talk as well. These folks are clueless. I’m glad the Immich devs are getting money from them but that’s not gonna last. Eron himself went about if they don’t have X users in Y time, then they’ll have problems (they not being Immich specifically).
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
this talk
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.