Firefox now collects data for advertisers. It's not actually scary, but there is a bigger problem.

Interestingly, the most voted for new service by Proton users in the 2024 community survey was a privacy-focused web browser. I wonder if we will see Proton move into that space soon.

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Wait was it privacy or was it having an intrusive “ai” bullshit thing? I can’t remember exactly Jokes aside, proton is not something we should look up to. Blender is a great example of a thing where various people contribute and somehow nobody needs to suck off facebook, the thing works and is getting better, usually listens to their community, there is no bullshit corporate structure and a ceo that needs his parachute gilded etc

The private AI writing assistant is a feature recently announced for Proton Mail. A browser would be an entirely new service.

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Yeah, but we’re talking trust here. Why should they do privacy if they already give your data to some llm thing?

Did you even bother to read about how it works or did you just skip straight to the hysteria? Proton Scribe runs locally on the device and it does not use your inputs for training. No data is sent to the cloud or third-parties.

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No, the point is in having a for profit org and something like the blender foundation. It’s about trust, not just the crappy llm thing, about the thing where they say everybody wants this

Proton do appear to be trying to resolve some of the issues that come with being a for-profit company?

Proton is transitioning towards a non-profit structure

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It’s one of those things where you talk about them once they are done. I’m transitioning to quitting smoking

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Unless you’re using a non-Chromium browser, that is.

In which case it runs on no-log servers. Support is coming for other browsers and the Proton Mail desktop app is already supported on macOS. Of course, all of this ignores the even greater point that this is an entirely optional feature that no one has to use. Personally I will be ignoring it completely.

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you cannot be privacy focused while being a for profit corporation

Good thing Proton is a nonprofit then 😊

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