Good luck with that, idiots. You can’t automcomplete your way into knowing what you are doing because this shit isn’t deterministic or all that often correct.
Have these people ever tried to code using chatGPT? It’s wrong SO often.
Edit: maybe they know this but they want to drive down the price of developers by pretending they don’t need them anymore. I would not be surprised if this were the case here.
Yep, it’s blatant attempts to decrease costs of employment. Just like outsourcing various tech jobs, automated phone trees, and every business tech “no code required” automation/workflow platform ever devised.
Convince people they can do more with your particular flavor of less. Charge them enough that they save money on the books but you make a profit through them using your toolkit.
At the end of the day, you will always still need someone to fully understand the problem, the inputs, the expected outputs, the tiny details that matter but are often overlooked, to identify roadblocks and determine options around them with associated costs and risks, and ultimately to chart a path from point A to B that has room for further complications.
Whatever the tool set, job title, or perceived level of efficiency provided by the tools, this need will never go away. Businesses are involved in a near constant effort to reduce what they have to pay for these skills, and welcome whatever latest fad points towards the potential of reducing those costs.
it can barely get single functions correct but we’re supposed to believe it can write entire systems from a single prompt? Either way our job at the moment is writing instructions for another piece of software (compiler) to turn into the code. This just adds another level of abstraction. High level programming languages already let us do more with fewer staff. It didn’t make coders redundant, it let to even more software.
edit: forgot to add, agree with your edit, that or just trying to inflate their stock prices.
Exactly. They’ll be signing contracts with “AI” coding farms in India which will just be staffed by overworked and un(der)paid interns and/or junior devs.
Gpt4 is seriously idiotic with code. It’s only capable of some basic stuff. Anything mildly complex and it’ll keep bouncing back and forth between mistakes as I keep correcting it. It just can’t reason.
That was a a fairly short article reporting on another article. The title gives the impression that the assertion was made with certainty when the actual quote makes it clear that this was meant as speculation, a calculated guess made on a conversation that was not meant to be public. I truly have no inclination to defend corporate leadership, but perhaps it would be more productive to direct our sentiments towards the article that is being quoted instead.
Great point, but this part of the quote is still dumb as rocks:
Coding is just kind of like the language that we talk to computers. It’s not necessarily the skill in and of itself. The skill in and of itself is like, how do I innovate? How do I go build something that’s interesting for my end users to use?
Sure, if you have a big workforce hand-coding UI, you might replace some of them by better tools. But things like that are a fraction of a fraction of the responsibilities developers have
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Good luck with that, idiots. You can’t automcomplete your way into knowing what you are doing because this shit isn’t deterministic or all that often correct.
Hype bullshit desperate for buyers
Yeah, the motivation here is “please panic-buy our GPUs/please panic-buy into our cloud GPU infrastructure ”
Lol
Have these people ever tried to code using chatGPT? It’s wrong SO often.
Edit: maybe they know this but they want to drive down the price of developers by pretending they don’t need them anymore. I would not be surprised if this were the case here.
Yep, it’s blatant attempts to decrease costs of employment. Just like outsourcing various tech jobs, automated phone trees, and every business tech “no code required” automation/workflow platform ever devised.
Convince people they can do more with your particular flavor of less. Charge them enough that they save money on the books but you make a profit through them using your toolkit.
At the end of the day, you will always still need someone to fully understand the problem, the inputs, the expected outputs, the tiny details that matter but are often overlooked, to identify roadblocks and determine options around them with associated costs and risks, and ultimately to chart a path from point A to B that has room for further complications.
Whatever the tool set, job title, or perceived level of efficiency provided by the tools, this need will never go away. Businesses are involved in a near constant effort to reduce what they have to pay for these skills, and welcome whatever latest fad points towards the potential of reducing those costs.
it can barely get single functions correct but we’re supposed to believe it can write entire systems from a single prompt? Either way our job at the moment is writing instructions for another piece of software (compiler) to turn into the code. This just adds another level of abstraction. High level programming languages already let us do more with fewer staff. It didn’t make coders redundant, it let to even more software.
edit: forgot to add, agree with your edit, that or just trying to inflate their stock prices.
Exactly. They’ll be signing contracts with “AI” coding farms in India which will just be staffed by overworked and un(der)paid interns and/or junior devs.
Yeah, okay - good luck with that!!
@floofloof these people are so goddamn stupid
Are they expecting some major improvement in AI in the next year or so?
I think they are just expecting that the upper management generates code using AI and the coders will try to fix it to get it to work.
That’s similar to the concern of writers in Hollywood: studios will get AI to write some terrible script, then underpay writers to “edit” it.
Ah that AI hype train is still rolling I see. Funny they said the exact same thing 24 months ago.
I have a feeling it’ll happen to us right around the same time Tesla self driving fully leaves beta.
Read: Two guys with no AI expertise agree that its boosting of their share price should continue (real shocker).
These news articles really love jerking these CEOs off
Gpt4 is seriously idiotic with code. It’s only capable of some basic stuff. Anything mildly complex and it’ll keep bouncing back and forth between mistakes as I keep correcting it. It just can’t reason.
Totally. But try getting management to understand.
Well, it’s their company 🤷🏻♀️
It’s also possible that in 24 months, I grow wings made of fish and get into anime style battles in the sky with hungry seagulls. Just as likely.
That would be cool though
That was a a fairly short article reporting on another article. The title gives the impression that the assertion was made with certainty when the actual quote makes it clear that this was meant as speculation, a calculated guess made on a conversation that was not meant to be public. I truly have no inclination to defend corporate leadership, but perhaps it would be more productive to direct our sentiments towards the article that is being quoted instead.
Great point, but this part of the quote is still dumb as rocks:
Sure, if you have a big workforce hand-coding UI, you might replace some of them by better tools. But things like that are a fraction of a fraction of the responsibilities developers have