He’ll never qualify. It would be hilarious if he ended up representing himself, though. I mean he’s had plenty of competent counsel, he just chooses not to listen to them. Quick, someone sell him on the wonders of Sovereign Citizenship!
You always want to see people get good counsel, as it protects against the defendant claiming ineffective assistance of counsel later. But it really would be hilarious if this was the case
It’s a clickbaity title in a sense that Trusty already quit from his team in the documents case. It’s not another lawyer quitting, but the same lawyer, it’s just that this time he’s quitting altogether from all other cases and any cooperation too.
This is a huge case. It’s going to take hundreds, if not thousands of billable hours. Any attorney that’s competent that takes this case has to know that they’re probably not going to see even a fraction of that money, meaning that they’ll be without income for a long period of time. A competent attorney that’s not ideologically motivated and independently wealthy is unlikely to be able to take the case. (An _in_competent attorney that doesn’t realize this fact might take the case, and then not be allowed to withdraw from the case by the judge.)
Second, Trump has a history of running his mouth in public. The attorneys that are going to be defending him need to have national security clearances in order to be effective counsel. If Trump talks about the cases in public, he could cost his attorneys their security clearances, which would not only impede their ability to defend him, but could also prevent them from being able to defend similar clients in the future. If I was an attorney, that would be a really big fucking deal. Not only would I be unlikely to be get paid, but there would be a real risk that Trump could harm my ability to earn income in the future.
If I was a competent attorney with a track record of defending this kind of case, this case would be radioactive.
Lawyers can potentially get sanctioned for client conduct. I can see a potential problem if attorney are given access to classified information for defense prep, then Trump accesses the information, and then disseminates that information. It’s a bit of a stretch, but given how bad Trump’s behaviour has been, that’s not a stretch I would ignore if I was an attorney.
I’d need a Real Attorney to chime in, but I think that, once you’re actually in a trial, you can’t dump your client without the permission from the judge. (You also can’t intentionally stop providing your best service for any reason at all, not unless you want to be sanctioned or disbarred.) So while an attorney could insist on money up front, if the money they were paid didn’t cover the real expenses, they could still end up getting stiffed. I suppose the ‘smart’ thing to do would be to have $100M put in an escrow account, and the money can only be released from the account if both parties agree. So if Trump tries to stiff you for the bill, he’s still out the money since you don’t have to release it back to him. Kinda like what The Silk Road used to do, only even shadier, since you’d be working for Trump.
I’m a union electrician in a red area, and it’s so incredibly annoying to see trucks in the meeting parking lot decked out in Trump stickers.
Like, he literally scams contractors! Famously and as a matter of legal record! He specifically fucks YOU! If went out to lunch with him he would stick you with the bill and steal your wallet!
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He’s gonna end up having to get a public defender lol
He’ll never qualify. It would be hilarious if he ended up representing himself, though. I mean he’s had plenty of competent counsel, he just chooses not to listen to them. Quick, someone sell him on the wonders of Sovereign Citizenship!
You always want to see people get good counsel, as it protects against the defendant claiming ineffective assistance of counsel later. But it really would be hilarious if this was the case
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Federal public defenders are actually good tho
It’s a clickbaity title in a sense that Trusty already quit from his team in the documents case. It’s not another lawyer quitting, but the same lawyer, it’s just that this time he’s quitting altogether from all other cases and any cooperation too.
What will he do without his Trusty lawyer 🥲
Maybe he’ll hire Mr. Phakapi.
This comment needs to be upvoted to the top.
I hope he represents himself. Like, let’s cap this parody chapter of human history with popcorn.
I second this. After all, isn’t he the smartest person who knows the most about everything (according to himself)?
Very stable genius. People come up and tell him all the time: “no one better represents Trump in court than Trump!”
Proving the phrase “The person who represents themself in court has a fool for a client”.
That person has a long history of not paying bills and bragging about it.
It wouldn’t be surprising his dispute with lawyers is also about money. It may be wise to ask to be payed upfront.
THIS is what’s going to bite him in the ass.
This is a huge case. It’s going to take hundreds, if not thousands of billable hours. Any attorney that’s competent that takes this case has to know that they’re probably not going to see even a fraction of that money, meaning that they’ll be without income for a long period of time. A competent attorney that’s not ideologically motivated and independently wealthy is unlikely to be able to take the case. (An _in_competent attorney that doesn’t realize this fact might take the case, and then not be allowed to withdraw from the case by the judge.)
Second, Trump has a history of running his mouth in public. The attorneys that are going to be defending him need to have national security clearances in order to be effective counsel. If Trump talks about the cases in public, he could cost his attorneys their security clearances, which would not only impede their ability to defend him, but could also prevent them from being able to defend similar clients in the future. If I was an attorney, that would be a really big fucking deal. Not only would I be unlikely to be get paid, but there would be a real risk that Trump could harm my ability to earn income in the future.
If I was a competent attorney with a track record of defending this kind of case, this case would be radioactive.
Excuse my ignorance, but why would Trump running his mouth in public put his attorneys’ clearance at risk?
Lawyers can potentially get sanctioned for client conduct. I can see a potential problem if attorney are given access to classified information for defense prep, then Trump accesses the information, and then disseminates that information. It’s a bit of a stretch, but given how bad Trump’s behaviour has been, that’s not a stretch I would ignore if I was an attorney.
And then you’ve got to add in that Trump likes to pressure his attorneys to do illegal things which could result in THEM being tried for crimes.
Trump is perhaps the worst client a lawyer could possibly represent.
Are there pre-paid attorneys?
Heh, sounds like something I’d find at the corner kiosk. “I’d like to top up my pre-paid lawyer card.”
Trump would be a regular customer. If he wouldn’t have to pay for it.
I’d need a Real Attorney to chime in, but I think that, once you’re actually in a trial, you can’t dump your client without the permission from the judge. (You also can’t intentionally stop providing your best service for any reason at all, not unless you want to be sanctioned or disbarred.) So while an attorney could insist on money up front, if the money they were paid didn’t cover the real expenses, they could still end up getting stiffed. I suppose the ‘smart’ thing to do would be to have $100M put in an escrow account, and the money can only be released from the account if both parties agree. So if Trump tries to stiff you for the bill, he’s still out the money since you don’t have to release it back to him. Kinda like what The Silk Road used to do, only even shadier, since you’d be working for Trump.
Law is weird^^
Thanks for the explanation!
Isn’t that what a retainer is for?
I’m a union electrician in a red area, and it’s so incredibly annoying to see trucks in the meeting parking lot decked out in Trump stickers.
Like, he literally scams contractors! Famously and as a matter of legal record! He specifically fucks YOU! If went out to lunch with him he would stick you with the bill and steal your wallet!
What an idiot
Get norm pattis to do it he’s had so many wins for right wing guys lately, it’s not like he was part of the biggest defamation payout ever.
Will Trump end up as the first president in jail? There’s already been a presidential candidate in jail IINM
What an embarrassing day for this twice impeached, insurrectionist traitor and convicted rapist with two active indictments and more on the horizon.
MAGA
Make attorneys get attorneys