A new survey from Norway reveals that 50% of young people under 30 believe that pirating content is an acceptable way to save money.
A new survey from Norway reveals that 50% of young people under 30 believe that pirating content is an acceptable way to save money. The survey, conducted by Ipsos, highlights that the high cost of streaming services is a key driver behind this attitude. Links between piracy and organized crime or malware, appear to be of less concern.
As a Norwegian I talked to some acquaintances about a TV-series they liked and I asked “Cool, where can I watch it?”. Then we all just looked at each other and laughed.
As a norwegian who is back to pirating after a break of around 10-12 years, it is not primarily a cost issue. Hell with hardware investments it is costing me more tho that includes stuff for gaming (roms, i currently dont pirate pc games).
What it is is a service issue. Self curated collection of movies and shows beats the fragmented shit that is current streaming platforms not to mention the flood of utter garbage on tgese platforms you have to sift thru to find somethinf worth watching. Not to mention the privacy aspects and in general the “ownership” model (ie licensing without really knowing the terms).
Yeah. I stopped pirating for like 3 years because of Netflix having enough content to occupy me (and I had a he’ll of a lot more time on my hands then than I do now). Now Netflix doesn’t have shit and everything is spread over a ton of services. I can either constantly be changing subscriptions around or pay like 7$ a month for a VPN and have everything… Hmmm, tough choice.
I think regular people who started to use the internet during the 90s and 2000s tend to know how to pirate more than the ones who started using them at a later decade.
As a young Norwegian I can say that I’ve saved a bit of money by pirating. I have a nas with 10s of tb of movies disney or Warner bros can’t delete from my library.
It saves a lot of money for each subscription service you can skip.
I only had to buy a VPN and a cheap mini PC as a server. And then a 1tb SSD. Then I needed to buy another 2tb. And then I had to run Ethernet upstairs for it since the WiFi card couldn’t keep up. Then I had to upgrade the router to support the new gigabit cabling…
Eh, well, at least I get to keep something out of it.
You mean at Netflix? Maybe, but only temporarily. If I’m missing a piece of media I want I’ll simply download it and add it to my server. And contrary to Netflix once it’s on my server it’ll stay there.
If you only leech and you’re not a hoarder, it really doesn’t require much. For most people there’s not really any need to store every single piece of media they’ve ever consumed or hope to consume…some day…maybe. Or setup tools to automate their uncontrollable hoarding.
Use a password manager; keep the porn accounts in a separate password vault that can be disposed of. Keep the password in a safe and/or include it in your will in some way.
I’m going to have to take over my dad’s setup someday and keep it running for my mom…
Good point although I was thinking more generally in terms of the sheer quantity of hoarded material. Every episode of Taggart and Midsomer Murders and Housewives… Grandma’s hoard might be even more unwieldy
Oh, I’m familiar with hoarders. Grandma is floor to ceiling; shed, two car garage, basement, both floors. I think the family plan is to let the city/bank deal with it when she goes. We won’t go inside.
I totally agree it’s a job best done by someone without any emotional ties.
I also realize that “the bank/the city” means “some secondary cleaning contractor” which means “some probably-undocumented immigrants,” i.e. another vital service which could be impacted by the Trump Purge.
I understood your comment to mean “piracy is saving you $400 a week”, so before piracy you spend $400 a week on media, which sounds like an insane amount.
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just got to a 364 ratio so i’m doing my part
Well, since I don’t own what I buy, I don’t see how pirating is anything other than getting something from a cheaper distributor.
After all, how can I steal something that can’t be owned?
You see, streaming is a service and you choosing to not use their service is… uhmm… theft!
hahaha such entitlement from them, right?
Yeah, I’m just watching/playing the content, I’m fine doing that without the license, which is the paid part anyway, right?
People are being exploited and screwed over left and right. Piracy is not even a blip on the radar.
If society was built on moral rules and honest behavior, then maybe people should feel bad about pirating. But this society? Lols.
I struggle to even see the difference from slavery on most days.
When companies treat you as a criminal even when you do try to do everything their way, it really becomes hard to care.
The way many companies act, you’d think they believe that you have to be a sucker to buy/use their own products.
Even when honest, I can approve the piracy in those days, as companies exploit everything, it acceptable for me.
As a Norwegian I talked to some acquaintances about a TV-series they liked and I asked “Cool, where can I watch it?”. Then we all just looked at each other and laughed.
I would laugh too
Norway is so expensive 😬 even for us Swiss people
Yeah, it is almost as if the companies operating in the area are price gouging on the basis of workers’ salaries 🤔
As a norwegian who is back to pirating after a break of around 10-12 years, it is not primarily a cost issue. Hell with hardware investments it is costing me more tho that includes stuff for gaming (roms, i currently dont pirate pc games).
What it is is a service issue. Self curated collection of movies and shows beats the fragmented shit that is current streaming platforms not to mention the flood of utter garbage on tgese platforms you have to sift thru to find somethinf worth watching. Not to mention the privacy aspects and in general the “ownership” model (ie licensing without really knowing the terms).
Fuck that shit and im never getting fooled again.
Music artists aren’t getting paid.
Companies regularly buy up IP, then leave it unavailable.
No central ability to find things.
All licenses are temporary and have no end date.
Companies are regularly raising rates far beyond inflation.
Lowering quality for a given price, then making a higher price point to get it back.
Adding advertisements and raising rates to get rid of them.
Selling our watching habits.
Or, you can download it and not deal with any of that.
When piracy rates go up, it’s because customer service and value has gone down.
Yeah. I stopped pirating for like 3 years because of Netflix having enough content to occupy me (and I had a he’ll of a lot more time on my hands then than I do now). Now Netflix doesn’t have shit and everything is spread over a ton of services. I can either constantly be changing subscriptions around or pay like 7$ a month for a VPN and have everything… Hmmm, tough choice.
Half of young Norwegians are wrong
That’s a great answer.
Safe sailing on the high seas, me hearties.
If I can’t own it, why would I pay for it?
When rich have rape sex trafficked victims this one never comes up 🤡
Or the fact that the billionaires are burning the most oil (which Norway sells them BTW) and baking the whole planet.
as opposed to old people under 30, like me! Still pirate though
I think regular people who started to use the internet during the 90s and 2000s tend to know how to pirate more than the ones who started using them at a later decade.
excludig techie people here because
It’s for old people over 30, like me, so we feel old.
what about young people over 30 though?
See above.
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I’m getting to old for this shit.
Specifically excluding the ones who are exactly 30, since those transcend the confines of young and old.
Honestly, I’m surprised it’s only 50%. They don’t have a cost of living crisis there?
Well, 50% of young people asked were willing to admit to their piracy lol
Not really. Just stay away from the capital/Oslo.
I suppose they don’t use their superlatives quite that inflationarily.
As a young Norwegian I can say that I’ve saved a bit of money by pirating. I have a nas with 10s of tb of movies disney or Warner bros can’t delete from my library.
I have a few Norweigan friends and they say the same.
You guys are saving money?
It saves a lot of money for each subscription service you can skip.
I only had to buy a VPN and a cheap mini PC as a server. And then a 1tb SSD. Then I needed to buy another 2tb. And then I had to run Ethernet upstairs for it since the WiFi card couldn’t keep up. Then I had to upgrade the router to support the new gigabit cabling…
Eh, well, at least I get to keep something out of it.
Yeah, at least you OWN something. With digital games or subscription services you are at the mercy of companies.
Yeah, I’m going for a bit more storage, currently sitting at 108TB. The price of my home server could pay for around 75 years of Netflix.
Selection is probably better though
You mean at Netflix? Maybe, but only temporarily. If I’m missing a piece of media I want I’ll simply download it and add it to my server. And contrary to Netflix once it’s on my server it’ll stay there.
No selection on your server is probably better…at least for your taste.
Wooosh
If you only leech and you’re not a hoarder, it really doesn’t require much. For most people there’s not really any need to store every single piece of media they’ve ever consumed or hope to consume…some day…maybe. Or setup tools to automate their uncontrollable hoarding.
Oh God this is going to become the new “clearing away all grandpa’s old Playboys and VHS tapes and newspapers,” isn’t it?
Use a password manager; keep the porn accounts in a separate password vault that can be disposed of. Keep the password in a safe and/or include it in your will in some way.
I’m going to have to take over my dad’s setup someday and keep it running for my mom…
Good point although I was thinking more generally in terms of the sheer quantity of hoarded material. Every episode of Taggart and Midsomer Murders and Housewives… Grandma’s hoard might be even more unwieldy
Oh, I’m familiar with hoarders. Grandma is floor to ceiling; shed, two car garage, basement, both floors. I think the family plan is to let the city/bank deal with it when she goes. We won’t go inside.
I totally agree it’s a job best done by someone without any emotional ties.
I also realize that “the bank/the city” means “some secondary cleaning contractor” which means “some probably-undocumented immigrants,” i.e. another vital service which could be impacted by the Trump Purge.
Yep, roughly $400 a week.
I run lean, dude. You don’t want my life.
If it’s about the hobby, the low end is what an old laptop and a crap hard drive? Cycle out new releases as they come and go.
I could set someone up with Jellyfin and a full arr suite for $50.
Saaaame. If I paid for every movie I watched, I’d have no moneys.
Huh? How? Were you subscribed to every single streaming service that existed?
Was it implied that I was in dire straits because I was streaming?
His statement was pretty general. It’s hard out there to save money, even if you aren’t streaming.
I understood your comment to mean “piracy is saving you $400 a week”, so before piracy you spend $400 a week on media, which sounds like an insane amount.
No, it’s what I can put back rn barring photosynthesis so I wouldn’t have to buy food.
I’m working on it.
That figure’s come down significantly since the age of vikings though
“Saving money by” vs “making money by”
“A penny saved is a penny earned!”
- Benji F
A penny pillaged is a penny earned
Are… Ummm… Is this flirting? Can’t it instead be “A penny taken bowling and then for ice cream” instead of going straight to pillaging?
GET IN THE EVA BENJI!