I’m aware of those services and in many cases they are paid and not free. . If a “client” has to host a “server” then the system most certainly is not “perfected” contrary to what OP said.
I started using it on a daily bases since I switched to Linux. The distro I use as daily driver and other large projects have their support team on IRC.
It is much much better than posting on forums. You get instant response.
It is much much better than posting on forums. You get instant response.
Agreed. Even for channels that aren’t tech-related, if I have a quick question, I typically get a faster, more in-depth response than forums/Reddit/whatever. They may not always be the correct answer, but they usually point me in the right direction. Anyone still hanging around on IRC tends to have good troubleshooting instincts.
Something where if you drop an image or video onto it, it’ll automatically upload it to a private imgur link and share it.
If you want to share a larger file, maybe it uploads to wetransfer or something automatically.
Discord is basically IRC and more, but it’s also easier for non-techies to join a discord server, and you have a common identity across all servers.
The beauty of something open like IRC though is the fact that you can make and use any client you want, including an old C64 if you really wanted to… with additional adapters of course
I personally gave in because it made file uploading easy as well as the fact that thelounge also acts as a bouncer, keeping me online 24/7 even when my browser isn’t up.
IRC does have file transfer, was how all us cool kids back in the early to mid 90s shared stuff. Its just that sharing is either p2p or you need a bot to mimic p2e.
As for the images, part of the benefit of IRC is its so ridiculously simple that you barely need anything to do it. Yeah features can be added to apps but the payoff isn’t great. If you have the imgr app installed you already have quick image hosting. Tying apps to other services seems counter to how generic and open IRC is.
What does p2e mean in this context? Tried looking it up but not finding anything that sounds right. I’d infer it may mean something similar to client-server, but I’m blanking on what the ‘e’ would stand for then.
Person to Everyone. In the context of this discussion i can post an image, video or file to a discord channel and everyone who goes in there can download it.
In IRC you make a client to client connection and send files directly to one another. You can setup a bot to respond to individual requests and transfer files but there is no “hey everyone download this”
The specific protocol for irc is called DCC (Direct Client to Client). It enables a lot of non-chat functionality, one of which is sending/receiving files.
I think this post should come with a huge disclaimer that IRC is highly addictive and a major time suck. If you’re trying to remain productive, avoid IRC.
Since RARBG shut down, I been using IRC more often for 2160p releases that are tougher to come by. Also, I never stopped using it for chatting. You won’t ever catch me using that bloated Discord garbage.
I rarely use any kind of chat, but I used IRC sometimes back in the day. I was recently working on a thing where I needed to use Discord for some programming advice. I got the info I needed, but yeah that Discord is a convoluted mess. Newer hardly ever means better.
Seems like the recommended https://sunxdcc.com/ has some 2160p releases, though not anything that usenet or private trackers wouldn’t already have better versions of (from what I can tell).
Why because the server is using a self signed cert or something? Did you save it from the server and put it in the irssi trusted root store and define it in your config?
My experience with IRC is that just like Reddit was, it is filled with entrenched mods and admins that act like petty kings and treat the channels/servers as their personal fiefdom. Some of these people have been mods and admins for like 15+ years. Incredibly cliquish and off putting, hostile to new users.
I think IRC could work but only if you create your own server and invite like minded people, and maybe rotate mods/admins regularly, lest the same thing happen to your server.
I used irc back in the day, from 98 to 2007/8. It was great and I made several friends that I still talk to today. There’s were i started pirating stuff, mostly books for university.
Sadly, the server we were at closed, and the other some of us migrated to closed a few years later 😢 I find it quite difficult to chat in English, so I rarely log into irc nowadays.
Sometimes I participated in IRC rooms through Matrix, but sadly Libera Chat recently ordered the partial shutdown of bridges to their network, so most of them won’t be available until they agree again.
The shutdown is still in progress, but I think from today you can’t open bridges to new channels, and then they have a timeline to further limit how they work.
Is there a daily reward for the person who makes the most popular IRC post or something? Everyday I see at least one post relating to how great IRC is and how to use it.
DCC = direct client-to-client. With IRC the server is not hosting or distributing any files it is making connections between clients similar to edonkey or soulseek just with a different protocol. Which means you connect directly with your IP to the client that has the files you want and the bandwidth is dependent on how fast each of the clients’ internet is.
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Perfected? The server is incapable of storing logs so if the client ever disconnects you just miss all the content…
There are bouncers for that. And better yet there are search engines, so you don’t need to stay all the time so you don’t miss content.
I’m aware of those services and in many cases they are paid and not free. . If a “client” has to host a “server” then the system most certainly is not “perfected” contrary to what OP said.
I started using it on a daily bases since I switched to Linux. The distro I use as daily driver and other large projects have their support team on IRC.
It is much much better than posting on forums. You get instant response.
Agreed. Even for channels that aren’t tech-related, if I have a quick question, I typically get a faster, more in-depth response than forums/Reddit/whatever. They may not always be the correct answer, but they usually point me in the right direction. Anyone still hanging around on IRC tends to have good troubleshooting instincts.
Wow, IRC takes me back. Thanks for posting this.
Does IRC support sending messages to people offline? Or is that still not supported?
many networks have memoserv for this purpose
though as another user said, using a bouncer is probably the most discord-like experience
I still run a bouncer… nothing has changed here AFAIK
/me remembers playing some pretty cool text games there, also trout slapping.
One of my earliest experiences online was on an irc server.
I was showing my mom how it worked and she pissed some other woman off on there. The lady told her she was going to hack her.
Well, she started sending a bunch of ascii text and my mom panicked and forced me to unplug the computer.
My mom said, “How long should we wait to connect to the internet? We probably need antivirus.” Haha
I felt like a goddamn explorer in those days.
Trout slapping is still a thing! There’s a Hexchat extension for that!
IRC really needs a discord styled client.
Something where if you drop an image or video onto it, it’ll automatically upload it to a private imgur link and share it.
If you want to share a larger file, maybe it uploads to wetransfer or something automatically.
Discord is basically IRC and more, but it’s also easier for non-techies to join a discord server, and you have a common identity across all servers.
The beauty of something open like IRC though is the fact that you can make and use any client you want, including an old C64 if you really wanted to… with additional adapters of course
I was running a matrix -> irc bridge for a while and it would automatically upload and make small files available.
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thelounge exists
https://thelounge.chat/docs
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I definitely understand that.
I personally gave in because it made file uploading easy as well as the fact that thelounge also acts as a bouncer, keeping me online 24/7 even when my browser isn’t up.
Also, it’s not discord. :o
IRC does have file transfer, was how all us cool kids back in the early to mid 90s shared stuff. Its just that sharing is either p2p or you need a bot to mimic p2e.
As for the images, part of the benefit of IRC is its so ridiculously simple that you barely need anything to do it. Yeah features can be added to apps but the payoff isn’t great. If you have the imgr app installed you already have quick image hosting. Tying apps to other services seems counter to how generic and open IRC is.
What does p2e mean in this context? Tried looking it up but not finding anything that sounds right. I’d infer it may mean something similar to client-server, but I’m blanking on what the ‘e’ would stand for then.
Person to Everyone. In the context of this discussion i can post an image, video or file to a discord channel and everyone who goes in there can download it.
In IRC you make a client to client connection and send files directly to one another. You can setup a bot to respond to individual requests and transfer files but there is no “hey everyone download this”
Aaaah, thanks for clarifying! I’ve only dipped in & out of some IRC channels and used it very casually, so wasn’t familiar with the terminology.
The specific protocol for irc is called DCC (Direct Client to Client). It enables a lot of non-chat functionality, one of which is sending/receiving files.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client
Yup, use to download all my anime through IRC when I was young 90s and baka torrents or similar. Good times.
/play hamster dance.wav
slaps you with a trout
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I think this post should come with a huge disclaimer that IRC is highly addictive and a major time suck. If you’re trying to remain productive, avoid IRC.
SOURCE: I was on IRC all the way back to the 90s.
Got laid on IRC in 1993. Can recommend.
ASL?
2000 version:
16, M, actual location
2023 version:
Millennial, they/them, parents’ basement
I put on my robe and wizard hat.
really 😳
Yeah, I’m cis male and met an amazing woman… I don’t think it was a common experience.
Bringing me back to 1996 😆
Aye. I even went to a couple of meets (PS Screw you, Lorry).
So did I. Pub near the Cenotaph in London by any chance?
Im still on a couple ircds
I still am on IRC and can confirm.
Since RARBG shut down, I been using IRC more often for 2160p releases that are tougher to come by. Also, I never stopped using it for chatting. You won’t ever catch me using that bloated Discord garbage.
I rarely use any kind of chat, but I used IRC sometimes back in the day. I was recently working on a thing where I needed to use Discord for some programming advice. I got the info I needed, but yeah that Discord is a convoluted mess. Newer hardly ever means better.
Could you tell a resourse for 2160p releases? Did not know IRC could be used also for such “big files”.
Seems like the recommended https://sunxdcc.com/ has some 2160p releases, though not anything that usenet or private trackers wouldn’t already have better versions of (from what I can tell).
https://xkcd.com/1782/
Based. Haven’t ever used IRC tho. Zoom zoom here
irssi is the best chat client that has ever and will ever be created.
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Why because the server is using a self signed cert or something? Did you save it from the server and put it in the irssi trusted root store and define it in your config?
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Yeah, it is confusing especially now that we are all used to HTTPS and automatic configs. If you can grab the self signed cert you can just save it to your irssi folder as a .crt and pop it in the config. I have this bookmarked from a while ago https://joshcurry.co.uk/posts/irssi-connect-to-a-server-which-uses-a-self-signed-certificate/
My experience with IRC is that just like Reddit was, it is filled with entrenched mods and admins that act like petty kings and treat the channels/servers as their personal fiefdom. Some of these people have been mods and admins for like 15+ years. Incredibly cliquish and off putting, hostile to new users.
I think IRC could work but only if you create your own server and invite like minded people, and maybe rotate mods/admins regularly, lest the same thing happen to your server.
Do you also rotate yourself out, then? Perhaps just symbolically with a hand picked temporary replacement?
Just buy a rotating chair.
Takes about 10 mins to set up your own IRC server
so you can talk to yourself?
Think I replied to the wrong comment:/
But obviously no. It’s so you can create your own community with your own rules etc .
I am not important enough to have my own community following but I assume someone will have a use for it
I used irc back in the day, from 98 to 2007/8. It was great and I made several friends that I still talk to today. There’s were i started pirating stuff, mostly books for university.
Sadly, the server we were at closed, and the other some of us migrated to closed a few years later 😢 I find it quite difficult to chat in English, so I rarely log into irc nowadays.
Sometimes I participated in IRC rooms through Matrix, but sadly Libera Chat recently ordered the partial shutdown of bridges to their network, so most of them won’t be available until they agree again.
The shutdown is still in progress, but I think from today you can’t open bridges to new channels, and then they have a timeline to further limit how they work.
You can, but the integration is not so transparent as before. For now, rooms <-> channels will be plumbed.
Yes, and to plumb any new channels you will need to contact a moderator of that channel
Is there a daily reward for the person who makes the most popular IRC post or something? Everyday I see at least one post relating to how great IRC is and how to use it.
Where are the files ultimately hosted and who is paying for the bandwidth?
How do the servers avoid being taken down?
DCC = direct client-to-client. With IRC the server is not hosting or distributing any files it is making connections between clients similar to edonkey or soulseek just with a different protocol. Which means you connect directly with your IP to the client that has the files you want and the bandwidth is dependent on how fast each of the clients’ internet is.
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That’s not true. IRC is a client-server system. Your messages go to a server and are “relayed” to clients.
It’s not a p2p messaging system
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